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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by DonW » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:45 pm

I haven't seen this before so spent a pleasant time starting from the begining. It looks a great line and well fitted into the garden.
I think garden lines need a bit of over engineering . The rolling stock may be 16mm but the weather is 12mm:1ft and even our small terrier at 10kgs would be a huge beast. Not to mention us oversized humans lumbering round. If your ground is wetter usually you could try Creeping Jenny (Lysimachia nummularia) it will grow on dry land or can adapt to the edge of a pond. Some people regard it as invasive as it will spread but it has never been a problem (unlike MYOB which spreads everywhere) the golden form is said to be better behaved.
The Loco looks very nice too.

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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by Lonsdaler » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:21 pm

invicta280 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:31 pm Yes, its the Lost in Space chariot, remounted on a 16mm powered chassis. It awaits a crew and some working lights fore and aft. Possibly a snow plough as well.

Creeping Thyme is great and yes, we have tried it here but without much success. Just shrivels up and dies. Wrong soil maybe,; I know it likes dry stoney conditions.
Love it. Looks very futuristic in that distinctive 1960's way :thumbup:
It's a shame the thyme isn't working for you. It's one of my few successes. Even MYOB struggles in my garden, except in a few well shaded spots.
It's al looking very promising anyway - keep it up!
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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by philipy » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:35 am

invicta280 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:31 pm
Creeping Thyme is great and yes, we have tried it here but without much success. Just shrivels up and dies. Wrong soil maybe,; I know it likes dry stoney conditions.
We've had this discussion about creeping thyme before, and yes the books do all say dry and stoney soil is what it wants, but I've got a couple of patches where it is going berserk in moist clay in semi-shade. It took a couple of years of me wondering whether it would make it and then suddenly it took off.
I bought another one and planted it alongside my stream a couple of months ago in some new topsoil (bought a bag from Wickes), in complete shade behind a Camellia where it gets watered twice a day automatically. So far it seems to be doing well.

Theer are several species of 'creeping thyme' so maybe a case of finding the right one for your situation?

If you want a plant to trail down a wall/cliff, you could use Aubretia, which likes to do exactly that ( think of old fashioned cottage garden walls ). The leaves can be a wee bit on the large side in some varities and some are a bluer green than others but it works well to cover, but again it may take a couple of years to establish properly. It also benefits from a good haircut of the straggly bits after it's finished flowering and that encourags it to spread.
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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by Lonsdaler » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:29 pm

philipy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:35 am
Theer are several species of 'creeping thyme' so maybe a case of finding the right one for your situation?

If you want a plant to trail down a wall/cliff, you could use Aubretia, which likes to do exactly that ( think of old fashioned cottage garden walls ). The leaves can be a wee bit on the large side in some varities and some are a bluer green than others but it works well to cover, but again it may take a couple of years to establish properly. It also benefits from a good haircut of the straggly bits after it's finished flowering and that encourags it to spread.
Now I've never had much success with aubretia either, despite trying to grow it on rockeries with a sunny (for North Yorkshire) aspect. I blame my not so green fingers :roll:
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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by philipy » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:32 pm

Lonsdaler wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:29 pm
Now I've never had much success with aubretia either, despite trying to grow it on rockeries with a sunny (for North Yorkshire) aspect. I blame my not so green fingers :roll:
Maybe you are right, but I've also got dirty brown rather than green fingers, so I dunno.

This picture shows my Aubretia, Thyme and MYOB.
The Aubretia at low level to the left is where the original high level plant rooted itself this year after cascading itself down.
The MYOB is just doing it's own thing and covering everything it can.
The Thyme to the left, growing across the track, has done that in the last week or two, and I noticed only yesterday that it has crept along the outer edge of the MYOB on the paving slab!! It started life a small rooted piece that got pulled off the main plant a couple of yards away and I just pushed in the gap about this time last year.

The fungi just appear, we get many different varieties, dunno what they are, but I guess it shows how damp things are generally.

The rockery is facing slightly west of south and spends much of the day in the shadow of the house.
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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by Andrew » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:13 pm

Nice picture! Might have to try some of those plants...

Does your MYOB have any adverse impact on your SBR'd ballast Philip? I recently weeded mine where it had grown over some track which I ballasted earlier in the year, and it appeared to pull up some of the ballast, but I think it might just have been where I didn't apply enough glue...

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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by philipy » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:43 pm

Andrew wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:13 pm
Does your MYOB have any adverse impact on your SBR'd ballast Philip? I recently weeded mine where it had grown over some track which I ballasted earlier in the year, and it appeared to pull up some of the ballast, but I think it might just have been where I didn't apply enough glue...
A quick squirt of "24hr weedkiller" solves that problem without the need for physical force! You can never get it all out anyway by pulling.
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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by Lonsdaler » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:32 am

philipy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:32 pm
Lonsdaler wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:29 pm
Now I've never had much success with aubretia either, despite trying to grow it on rockeries with a sunny (for North Yorkshire) aspect. I blame my not so green fingers :roll:
Maybe you are right, but I've also got dirty brown rather than green fingers, so I dunno.

This picture shows my Aubretia, Thyme and MYOB.
The Aubretia at low level to the left is where the original high level plant rooted itself this year after cascading itself down.
The MYOB is just doing it's own thing and covering everything it can.
The Thyme to the left, growing across the track, has done that in the last week or two, and I noticed only yesterday that it has crept along the outer edge of the MYOB on the paving slab!! It started life a small rooted piece that got pulled off the main plant a couple of yards away and I just pushed in the gap about this time last year.

The fungi just appear, we get many different varieties, dunno what they are, but I guess it shows how damp things are generally.

The rockery is facing slightly west of south and spends much of the day in the shadow of the house.

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I'm not at home at the moment so can't reciprocate with pictures of my attempts but can I ask how much of a soil pocket the aubretia has? If any, of course. The few areas where my myob does well look similar to your patch, and other parts of the line have patches of moss taking root, whilst others remain starkly barren.

And apologies for the thread hijack :oops:
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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by philipy » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:12 am

Lonsdaler wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:32 am
And apologies for the thread hijack :oops:
Yes, I've been feelinga bit guilty about that as well! :oops:
I've copied the last few posts over to the Plants thread and I'll answer there. https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 62#p149562
Again apologies forthe hijack!
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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by invicta280 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:56 am

philipy wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:12 am
Lonsdaler wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:32 am
And apologies for the thread hijack :oops:
Yes, I've been feelinga bit guilty about that as well! :oops:
I've copied the last few posts over to the Plants thread and I'll answer there. https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 62#p149562
Again apologies forthe hijack!
No worries. Be my guest. Its all relevent. I've wondered why some rockery plants thrive at my place while others curl up and die, despite me having the advantge of a wife who is a knowledgable gardener.

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Re: The Cobtree Line

Post by Lonsdaler » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:19 am

invicta280 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:56 am
philipy wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:12 am
Lonsdaler wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:32 am
And apologies for the thread hijack :oops:
Yes, I've been feelinga bit guilty about that as well! :oops:
I've copied the last few posts over to the Plants thread and I'll answer there. https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 62#p149562
Again apologies forthe hijack!
No worries. Be my guest. Its all relevent. I've wondered why some rockery plants thrive at my place while others curl up and die, despite me having the advantge of a wife who is a knowledgable gardener.
It is indeed relevant to nearly all of us. On that basis, Philip moving the thread hijack to the scenery section makes a lot of sense - it'll be easier to find next spring when I'm trying to remember what the advice was! :lol:
I'm looking forward to seeing your modifications to the chariot :thumbup:
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