NWNG Cleminson

Peter Butler · Post by **Peter Butler** » Tue May 10, 2016 11:16 am

Hi David, sincere apologies for not commenting on your carriage build but I have been awestruck throughout its construction method and your patience and determination to get it right. It is a remarkable piece of work which you can be proud of... I wouldn't have attempted this myself as I prefer to work in Plasticard and that might be a task too far for a vehicle that size. Congratulations.

River Lin · Post by **River Lin** » Tue May 10, 2016 4:26 pm

Thank you both for those kind words. It has taken a long time though. Looking back I seem to have started it early last summer.
One problem I have come across is that with the roof not being glued on, the body is quite flexible being made primarily of 3mm square timber and glazing matertial above the waistline and only supported at the ends and the central partition. I have to be careful how I pick it up and not squeeze it. The best way is one handed in the middle or two handed at the very ends.
It has been an enjoyable project and I can't wait to try the coach on a garden line next Sunday, with my other homebuilt NWNG/WHR stock, as I don't have one of my own. Hopefully the weather will pick up again.
Pictures will follow.
David.

Post by **Andrew** » Tue May 10, 2016 8:13 pm

River Lin:117948 wrote: It has been an enjoyable project and I can't wait to try the coach on a garden line next Sunday, with my other homebuilt NWNG/WHR stock, as I don't have one of my own. Hopefully the weather will pick up again.
Pictures will follow.

Yes please! I'm sure they'll be a sight to behold, it's a lovely carriage.

Enjoy your maiden run!

Andrew.

PS Next time you're at The Signal Box do let the owner know that his old "Russell" is still going strong and being very much enjoyed! I bought it from him at Peterborough about 5 years ago...

River Lin · Post by **River Lin** » Wed May 11, 2016 10:37 pm

Will do Andrew.

David.

IrishPeter · Post by **IrishPeter** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:14 am

What a lovely wee beastie that carriage has turned into!

Peter in AZ

River Lin · Post by **River Lin** » Mon May 16, 2016 9:19 pm

Hi all.
There's good news and not so good news!!!
Firstly the carriage looked lovely in the afternoon sunshine on the Disney Bridge Railway.

But.
She misbehaved a couple of times on this particular curve (not a tight curve) and decided that instead of being towed she would rather walk and put her wheels into the two foot.
On an inspection underneath, not very ladylike but it had to be done, I found the following -

It seems that for some reason the end bogie turned too far and allowed the wire strut to become detached and caused the carriage to jump the track. I suppose teething troubles occur and need to be sorted.

So I have made a start on the folloiwing-
Fit longer wire struts.
Use thicker and stiffer wire for the struts.
Fit stops to limit the turning of the bogies beyond a certain point.
Remove some of the play and 'loseness' of the bogies.

Any other thoughts please share. Overall though, I am pleased with the carriage.
David.

IrishPeter · Post by **IrishPeter** » Tue May 17, 2016 7:18 am

From my experience with Cleminson underframes, I would make the changes incrementally starting with the longer, thicker guide rods. I would not limit the slop on the sub-frames until you have proved to yourself that the longer rods on their own are not enough.

My big fear with six-wheelers would be that two changes at the same time may fix one problem and create two more! The stage by stage approach really is much safer with this type of vehicle. I found that a stiffer linkage cured most of my problems with the six-wheeler I built.

Cheers,
Peter in AZ

River Lin · Post by **River Lin** » Tue May 17, 2016 4:01 pm

Hi Peter.
What you say makes good sense. I have already made thicker and longer guide rods so will stick with that for now until I can try the carriage again next Sunday.
David.

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