Zach Bond "Momentum Van" project
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If you can't beat 'em...
Despite the fact that I've got a cupboard full of unfinished projects and a whole load of other, theoretically more pressing, priorities, my Zecar is ordered and on its way...
I'm going to get hold of some Binnie wheels and axleboxes and see if I can fit the momentum mechanism into a small mineral wagon. I'll let you know how it goes...
Cheers,
Andrew.
Despite the fact that I've got a cupboard full of unfinished projects and a whole load of other, theoretically more pressing, priorities, my Zecar is ordered and on its way...
I'm going to get hold of some Binnie wheels and axleboxes and see if I can fit the momentum mechanism into a small mineral wagon. I'll let you know how it goes...
Cheers,
Andrew.
Arrrgh!!!
I've just been taking the wheels off my Zecar, gripping the axle with pliers and tapping at the wheels with my little toffee hammer. Only I missed - and now I've broken the plastic gear in the middle, grrrr... It's a clean break so I'm going to try to fix it with 5 minute epoxy... Fingers crossed...
I've just been taking the wheels off my Zecar, gripping the axle with pliers and tapping at the wheels with my little toffee hammer. Only I missed - and now I've broken the plastic gear in the middle, grrrr... It's a clean break so I'm going to try to fix it with 5 minute epoxy... Fingers crossed...
Well, I've finished my version of the wagon. It's just an IP "panelled wagon". It's very plain, even for an IP wagon. I wouldn't mind some suggestions for making it look a bit more finished?
Anyway here it is. The short wheelbase is a little silly-looking, although I don't suppose it will be too obvious when the wagon is part of a train. I've included a picture of it in my rather haphazard little "passenger" train.
Anyway here it is. The short wheelbase is a little silly-looking, although I don't suppose it will be too obvious when the wagon is part of a train. I've included a picture of it in my rather haphazard little "passenger" train.
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Looking good Keith!
My own momentum project is taking shape - I seem to have managed to glue the broken plastic gear back together (for now anyway!), and have shortened the axles and fitted Binnie wheels, a great fit on the axle. The axles needed shaving slightly to fit the Binnie axleboxes, but that was easy enough to do.
I've now started work on the body. It was to have been based on a photo of a 2 plank Welsh Highland wagon but the proportions don't look quite right for that (I didn't have any drawings) so it'll just be a WHR-influenced freelance design.
Here it is so far, with the body awaiting detailing and just perched on the axleboxes temporarily:
It's pretty light, but even with the body's small size I think I'll find enough room to add sufficient weight to make it work... I'll keep you posted...
Cheers,
Andrew.
My own momentum project is taking shape - I seem to have managed to glue the broken plastic gear back together (for now anyway!), and have shortened the axles and fitted Binnie wheels, a great fit on the axle. The axles needed shaving slightly to fit the Binnie axleboxes, but that was easy enough to do.
I've now started work on the body. It was to have been based on a photo of a 2 plank Welsh Highland wagon but the proportions don't look quite right for that (I didn't have any drawings) so it'll just be a WHR-influenced freelance design.
Here it is so far, with the body awaiting detailing and just perched on the axleboxes temporarily:
It's pretty light, but even with the body's small size I think I'll find enough room to add sufficient weight to make it work... I'll keep you posted...
Cheers,
Andrew.
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Below is a clip of mine behind my MSS Saddle Tank. Without the Momentum Van i'd never been able to get it to run anything like that slowly.
You can also clearly see the van giving the loco a nudge as it stalls on the curve.
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You can also clearly see the van giving the loco a nudge as it stalls on the curve.
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I particularly like the station building, lovely...Alan P:110744 wrote:Thanks Peter.
Everything is left outside. The row of terrace houses, the pub, watermill and the signal box are all Modeltown resin kits.
The station, water tower and coaling stops are all scratch built. Most of it seems to survive ok although my little back yard is very sheltered.
My MV is now on its wheels - I'm waiting for some glue to dry before test-running... I've glued a couple of fishing weights onto the dummy "top", which will be covered with a heap of coal. If that's not enough I've got some curtain weights which I can glue to the body inners...
Cheers all,
Andrew
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I am struggling with basics of youtube! but this might be a link to a clip of my momentum wagon in action. The loco used to stall every time on the curves, and race on the straights. its not perfect (especially trying to drive and film!) but its much much more realistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reqlTnqEVI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8LsG1m_6oE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFtdFe1JgkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reqlTnqEVI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8LsG1m_6oE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFtdFe1JgkI
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Evening all,
My own momentum vehicle, a little coal truck is now complete - here it is with a Binnie slate wagon and a Mamod guards van to enable a size comparison:
And a side view:
I don't currently have a working manually controlled loco that isn't geared, but I tested it out behind my RH Russell, and it works pretty well I think. It seems to give the train a much weightier feel, making acceleration smoother (at least once the geared wheel has caught up with the rest of the train) and helping regulate speed - I had some lovely slow runs up my 1 in 50 gradient. It encourages smoother deceleration too, because if you stop too suddenly it looks plain daft bumping to a halt and then sitting with its wheels spinning - although it's pretty heavy for its size, it can't shift a stationary Russell! More testing is required, but so far, so good. I'm looking forward to running it with visiting manual locos too.
Perhaps best of all I've discovered how much I like building grotty little trucks - three more are now under construction!
Cheers,
Andrew.
PS video to follow sometime - attempts to drive and film at the same time weren't good!
My own momentum vehicle, a little coal truck is now complete - here it is with a Binnie slate wagon and a Mamod guards van to enable a size comparison:
And a side view:
I don't currently have a working manually controlled loco that isn't geared, but I tested it out behind my RH Russell, and it works pretty well I think. It seems to give the train a much weightier feel, making acceleration smoother (at least once the geared wheel has caught up with the rest of the train) and helping regulate speed - I had some lovely slow runs up my 1 in 50 gradient. It encourages smoother deceleration too, because if you stop too suddenly it looks plain daft bumping to a halt and then sitting with its wheels spinning - although it's pretty heavy for its size, it can't shift a stationary Russell! More testing is required, but so far, so good. I'm looking forward to running it with visiting manual locos too.
Perhaps best of all I've discovered how much I like building grotty little trucks - three more are now under construction!
Cheers,
Andrew.
PS video to follow sometime - attempts to drive and film at the same time weren't good!
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That's a really lovely little wagon Andrew. Well done.
I'm itching for the day when all the work on the house and garden is complete, my railway is at least under construction and I have space for a little bit of a workshop in the cellar (squeezed in with the HD Meccano electric mice)!
I'm itching for the day when all the work on the house and garden is complete, my railway is at least under construction and I have space for a little bit of a workshop in the cellar (squeezed in with the HD Meccano electric mice)!
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"'cause I can't manage on three gaffer!"
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