Welshpool & Llanfair sheep wagon

[MuzTrem]

I don't suppose anybody could supply me with drawings of this, could they?

[ge_rik]

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Rik

[andymctractor]

Note that Accucraft are soon to bring out a 16mm/ft version in a number of guises as well as kit to adapt the flat wagon into one.
Clearly I don't know what scale you want to model it in or whether you want to avoid RTR.  I have noted now that your railway is 16mm/ft.  
I would be interested in a drawing of one of the small sheep loading ramps that were located at many W+LLR stations.  These would make an interesting and compact scenic item for many narrow gauge models.

Good luck

[MuzTrem]

I must admit, the Accucraft version is very tempting! And I've nothing against RTR in principle - I already have an Accucraft L&B open wagon on my railway. But there's two reasons why I'm going for a scratchbuild this time:

1. I'm a little bit strapped for cash at present. Trackshack's target price for the sheep wagon is £51. I'm hoping that scratchbuilding will work out cheaper.

2. I want a project to keep me busy over the winter months! Having built a coach in plasticard, I now want to try a scratchbuild in wood for the first time.

I should add that I don't expect to produce a perfect scale model - I want the drawing more to help me get the overall proportions right.

I should also caution that this may not be a quick project as life has an annoying habit of getting in the way of my garden railway activities, but I will keep you all posted

[Peter Butler]

You might not have seen my recent scratch-build of a W&L sheep wagon which I posted on another thread. This is taken from the W&L book which shows a black and white photograph only with no dimensions. I had to base the size on a similar cattle truck which does have dimensional drawings.

[MuzTrem]

Indeed, I had missed that! Thanks for sharing the photos, they're a very useful reference

[Hope Mountain Railway]

Photos useful for inspiration - and beautifully made. But just for the record, none of the W & Ll Sheep wagons had planks above the ramp and none had two ramps. Some had 5 planks and some had 6. Some had no ramps at all. I say this with some authority, as I have spent the last 6 months researching and drawing them with some great help from the W & Ll archivist.

[Peter Butler]

You are absolutely correct in pointing out my errors. I made no attempt to model a prototype but simply to base my sheep truck on one I thought typical of the type.
The door thing is interesting as you can't see from the photograph whether there is more than one, however, I decided that my sheep should be loaded from my cattle dock and if the truck ended up facing the wrong way, this would not be possible!
None of my stock is prototypical but I'm generally pleased with the overall impression.

[Hope Mountain Railway]

And a lovely job you have done too, Paul. Have you used wood or plastic? Looks like wood?

[Peter Butler]

And a lovely job you have done too, Paul. (Peter!) Have you used wood or  plastic? Looks like wood?

All of my models are made from plasticard but where appropriate woodgrain effect is made by scraping with a fine tooth razor saw blade in the direction of the grain. I have been working with wood all of my life and I find genuine woodgrain does not scale-down successfully and often becomes furry when paint is applied. Plastic stays put once the desired effect is achieved and needs no further attention other than weathering.

[MuzTrem]

Well, it's taken a while but my sheep wagon now exists! See my blog for a picture:

http://misbournevalleyrailway.weebly.com/blog

[cncmodeller]

A bit late I know, but for anyone else's info there is a drawing of the sheep wagon in James Boyd's book Narrow gauge railways in mid Wales page 258.

John