Mamod Carriage convertion.

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Mamod Carriage convertion.

Post by Tony Bird » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:21 pm

I have had this problem before with Mamod products, steel rusting under what looks like perfectly good paint. The second of the Mamod Carriages purchased at Peterborough had this problem.

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So yesterday after removing 8 nuts and 32 'Pop' rivets it ended up like this.

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After removing the paint from the carriage body a piercing saw was used to alter it. With the aid of Peter Jones's excellent white metal head light castings it looked like this.

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The carriage is held together by soldering and shouldered nuts soldered to the body for the parts that need to come apart. Creating a shoulder on a nut.

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Nuts soldered in place.

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The carriage body in undercoat.

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Painted and assembled.

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Its appearance will be improved with some lining I think.

I now have to think of an engine, steam I hope but maybe electric.

While looking through my BSA box I came across these wheels. In the dim and distant when Mamod wheels wore out some of us fitted steel tyres to them. The axle on the left have tyres fitted on the right not and a tyre blank.

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I also came across enough bits to assemble the following. The frames are brass replacement ones, that were sometimes used in 'Mamod Bashing'.

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Post by Peter Butler » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:34 pm

Nice project....... I particularly like the 'Lazy Susan' spray turntable which is identical to the one I use. This is such a simple thing which makes modelling life so much easier.

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Post by kandnwlr » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:33 am

This looks (despite the Mamod origins) as though it were specially made for Regner´s new Otto steam tram .... :shock:

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Post by Tony Bird » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:33 pm

Hi,

The carriage has been lined with tape which was varnished over.

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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:28 pm

That has become a very attractive little coach. Nice work on the lining.

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Post by sstjc » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:11 am

This would make a very nice pretend steam tram with a dummy boiler and an HGLW power chassis underneath it... Very attractive. Good work their !
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Post by Tony Bird » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:00 pm

Hi,

I have decided that I will do my best to make the carriage steam powered and rather than design something from scratch I will try and use up some bits and pieces that are in the workshop.

The Boiler! It will have to be quite small but I have two boilers left from an abandoned boat project. The pot boiler was designed to use almost any fuel from tablets to gas and with its hedgehog spikes should make enough steam for a model locomotive. It is rather an odd shape because it was intended to look like a Buckley water tube boiler. Some of the early tram engines did try water tube boilers so this choice might be appropriate.

The boiler as intended for use on a boat with a oil separator in its chimney. Might be able to try a similar idea on the tram.

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The boiler is a very tight fit in the tram body but before fitting it the direction of the steam pipe needed changing. From this.

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To this.

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A trial fit on the chassis.

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Shoehorned into the body.

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And a chimney fitted. The weather today not as good as yesterday.

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Some how I do not think I will find a suitable engine in stock!

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Post by 'Pierre Berry » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:16 pm

Wonderful work. Can't wait for the next step !

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Post by MDLR » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:46 pm

There's not going to be much room for cylinders..................
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Post by sstjc » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:56 pm

MDLR:102073 wrote:There's not going to be much room for cylinders..................
Exactly why I think a dummy boiler and HGLW chassis....
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Post by Tony Bird » Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:30 am

Hi Brian,

I hope things are well with you.

There's not going to be much room for cylinders..................

Quite correct. They have to be below footplate level. I could make and fit a slightly larger version of an ASM which would work, but I am trying to use up some bits and pieces that I have. So a little more cogitation?

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Post by Tony Bird » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:48 pm

Hi,

Had a bit of a play at making a chassis for the tram today. Rather than use the trams own chassis to practice on I used a log wagon chassis instead.

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The log wagon chassis was taken apart by removing its 'pop' rivets and replacing them with nuts and bolts. A bit of a drawing was done so that an over size side frame could be made to play with, so as to not destroy the original side frames which might have to be modified. The wheels were removed from their axles. They were very tight if only the locomotives wheels were held as tightly. Removing wheels with a hammer and punch.

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Axles and wheels separated.

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First idea being tried it will certainly work for electric and maybe for steam.

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More ideas will have to be tried?

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Post by Tony Bird » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:28 am

Hi,

This thread continues in the Mamod section under the title 'Mamod carriage to Mamod Tram engine'.

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