IP roundhouse 3 compartment coaches

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:53 pm

some warpage photos.

floor from the 2nd kit-

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:03 pm

I had the same problem when I built my own ip coach.

the end panels where also much to wide for the floor!
right pain if they started using laser cutting in their RH range Id buy them.

laalratty · Post by **laalratty** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:04 pm

Wow, that was much worse than i've had from any other IP kit, that warping looks pretty awful

mhlr · Post by **mhlr** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:19 pm

Blimey, you really have had bad luck with IP Engineering...

alan2525 · Post by **alan2525** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:57 pm

MuzTrem wrote:I don't understand why more manufacturers don't design their kits with removable roofs in mind.

The kits are all really built to a price, ideally you need to add a lot more strip wood, nicer detail castings, ribs for a removeable roof, stretchers to reinforce the roof, a nice rolled aluminium or brass roof. The list could go on and on...and then the kits wind up costing a fortune! If you do all those additions yourself the cost gets spread out so it's manageable.

alan2525 · Post by **alan2525** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:03 am

andysleigh wrote:some warpage photos.

You could try putting the end in the microwave, with a piece of paper towel on top, putting it on for 15 seconds or so, the heat will soften the glue, you can then put the end between two sheets of paper on a flat surface with a large heavy weight on top. leave it for an hour or so. Thats a way you can form plywood into curves, but has never tried it for making curved bits flat again!

Make sure there's no metal on the ends though when you put in the microwave!

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:15 am

alan2525 wrote:You could try putting the end in the microwave, with a piece of paper towel on top, putting it on for 15 seconds or so, the heat will soften the glue, you can then put the end between two sheets of paper on a flat surface with a large heavy weight on top. leave it for an hour or so. Thats a way you can form plywood into curves, but has never tried it for making curved bits flat again!

Make sure there's no metal on the ends though when you put in the microwave!

funnily enough, i heard just that advice at the club meeting tonight, but that was about forming the roof.

I dont really want to remove the metal steps and parts from the end, everything is glued on, and mmay take some paint off.

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:26 pm

Ha, just read Mr Prior's comments on the e-group, Andy caused the warpage.

Why does no one ever read the instructions???

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:42 pm

SillyBilly wrote: Andy cause the warpage.

no i didnt.... i remeber having to clamp the ends down flat to stick the seats on

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:50 pm

Why didn't you follow the instructions then?

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:54 pm

SillyBilly wrote:Why didn't you follow the instructions then?

because i never read instructions...

i am sure i am not the only person who doesnt read instructions.

mhlr · Post by **mhlr** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:15 pm

andysleigh wrote:i am sure i am not the only person who doesnt read instructions.

I read them first, then build it lol!

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:37 pm

I skip through them, and generally get the jist.
Let's be self concious,
I just have natural flares of talent

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pauly · Post by **pauly** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:48 pm

andysleigh wrote:
SillyBilly wrote:Why didn't you follow the instructions then?
because i never read instructions...

i am sure i am not the only person who doesnt read instructions.

I try to build it then shout at it, hit it with a big hammer and if that doesnt work take a look at the instructions

MuzTrem · Post by **MuzTrem** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:16 pm

I had a similar problem with my IP cattle wagon; the floor warped with the body already glued to it. The solution was to run the whole wagon under boiling water, use brute force to bend it back into shape, and then sellotape it firmly to a straight plank of wood and leave it for a day or two. It's now pretty much straight!

ptlrcecil · Post by **ptlrcecil** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:04 pm

I had some problem with warping but nothing some water and G Cramps couldnt sort out. Not as bad as the photos suggest though.

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:37 am

Now stuck it together.
yes i know, its wonky, and badly made.
and following the comments on the e group, i feel very inclined to stop useing my 16mm stuff.

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:42 am

they are looking great.

dont let other peoples negative comments get in your way!

Titan · Post by **Titan** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:08 pm

andysleigh wrote:Now stuck it together.
yes i know, its wonky, and badly made.
and following the comments on the e group, i feel very inclined to stop useing my 16mm stuff.

Don't worry, a lot of my stuff is wonky and badly made - at least in appearance. My Double Fairlie looks particularly rough at the moment, and I doubt if I will be able to straighten up all the boiler fittings so even when it is finished I am sure there will be people that will look at it and tut tut, even if it is only in their heads - and there will probably be some who will do the same towards the Pullmans when they are done too. Wonkyness is only an issue if you are not happy with it.

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:17 pm

Looks good to me Andy, only the ducket looks a little wonky in that photo.

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