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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Sat May 02, 2020 8:21 pm

Well that's very kind of you, thank you...

I can only take some of the credit, because JMORG also showcases his Welsh Highland stock here, and I think we've had some of River Lin's and Peter's in the past too, so both quality and quantity are a team effort! Glad you like it though - I must admit, I like to scroll back through to remind myself of what I've been up to.

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Post by ge_rik » Sun May 03, 2020 8:06 am

Just catching up with this thread. I think this is a great example of one of the forum's strengths - the sharing of ideas and supportive viewpoints. Also good to see the quality of modelling inherent in our membership.

Love the additional detailing you've added, Andrew.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by JMORG » Sun May 03, 2020 10:57 am

I think it's a good way to showcase different methods of construction and finish for the same piece of stock. For example, Andrew and myself both have FR van 10/2 (not sure what it's called now) and carriage 23. Andrews is finished as per the 20's whereas mine are "as preserved" in order to run them with the K1 and NGG16.
The freight stock is another good comparison, as there are no reliable information on wagon construction details or livery (even pictures are scarce). The freight stock is thus quite varied in details, I've tried to keep mine as more "in-keeping" and paint them in NWNGR livery to get away with it.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Sun May 03, 2020 7:28 pm

JMORG, we must try to run our combined WHR fleet together at some point - you must be only a few junctions up the M5 from me?

Still, combining them virtually is better for social distancing!

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Wed May 06, 2020 2:30 pm

Afternoon all!

The bolsters are now weathered, numbered and ready to roll - and one of the pleasures of working from home is the chance to do that over lunch!

Here are the empty bolsters heading up to the timber yard at Penlan:

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And heading back down, loaded with sawn timber:

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The next trip was for some logs, longer than before, so requiring a slate wagon to act as a match truck:

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I'm pleased to report that the test was a success - for such light vehicles they ran pretty well.

I've got a few maintenance tasks to complete now, then it's on to something completely different...

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Post by tom_tom_go » Wed May 06, 2020 2:46 pm

Achieved during lunch eh Andrew :mrgreen:

They look great.

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Post by Andrew » Wed May 06, 2020 4:14 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 2:46 pm Achieved during lunch eh Andrew :mrgreen:
Well, lunchtime's a movable feast these days!

Can't help but notice that the left (Penlan) side of the garden, usually in shade, catches the sun very nicely first thing in the morning, when I'd normally either be on my way to work or still in bed. I may need to postpone logging in to work and raise steam one morning...

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Post by tom_tom_go » Wed May 06, 2020 4:45 pm

I am glad you changed the wheels on the bolster wagons, they look much more substantial.

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Post by Andrew » Wed May 06, 2020 6:04 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 4:45 pm I am glad you changed the wheels on the bolster wagons, they look much more substantial.
I'm glad you approve, I'm pleased I did it. They're more like the real thing now, but still don't stand close comparison!

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Post by Peter Butler » Wed May 06, 2020 7:53 pm

What a wonderful job you have made of those bolsters Andrew, a transformation from the basic kits you started with, top marks for that!
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Post by LNR » Thu May 07, 2020 12:54 am

I can only second what Peter has said, wonderful weathering job sets off a great build.
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Post by JMORG » Thu May 07, 2020 7:31 am

They look good Andrew! What's next for the workshop?

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Post by Andrew » Thu May 07, 2020 12:18 pm

JMORG wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 7:31 am What's next for the workshop?
All will be revealed...

They won't be next, but I reckon some NWNGR/WHR slate wagons are rising up the priority list. This morning's train included a plastic Ffestiniog 2t version which bounced around a bit among the heavier wooden WHR opens and vans - I've got some metal axleboxes that I plan to use to make some slightly heftier versions...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by tom_tom_go » Thu May 07, 2020 12:50 pm

Maybe give Russell a voice?

The photos are brilliant.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by FWLR » Fri May 08, 2020 10:03 am

Superb job on the bolster wagons. :thumbright:

Any issues with curves ie: what is the length with the match wagon Andrew.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Fri May 08, 2020 7:16 pm

FWLR wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 10:03 am Any issues with curves ie: what is the length with the match wagon Andrew.
Hi Rod,

With the slate wagon in between the whole thing is just under a foot long, and it seems I'd spoken too soon when I said the set ran well - on a subsequent run there were some problems with "bow string effect" on the tighter curves (3' 6"-ish), I think because the centre of gravity's pretty high. There's not much room for more weight lower down, so I think it will just be a case of keeping the speed very low and hoping for the best when running as a three wagon set. I reckon I'll generally run the pair without the match truck anyway, which should be OK.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by ge_rik » Fri May 08, 2020 8:02 pm

They look particularly effective. Subtly weathered and plenty of fine detail.
I especially like seeing the pair with the match truck between them. I wonder if they ever ran with two match trucks for longer loads??

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by FWLR » Sat May 09, 2020 8:57 am

Hi Andrew,

Seems the weight is the main issue then, otherwise it would run well would it. :?:

Would a flat wagon with really small wheels help, then you could possible add some weight with a heavy load like slate or even a hollow box with some led in it.... :scratch:

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Post by Andrew » Sat May 09, 2020 12:16 pm

FWLR wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 8:57 am Hi Andrew,

Seems the weight is the main issue then, otherwise it would run well would it. :?:

Would a flat wagon with really small wheels help, then you could possible add some weight with a heavy load like slate or even a hollow box with some led in it.... :scratch:
Yep - When running as a three wagon set, what weight there is seems to be too high to counteract the length on some curves. Seems OK with just the bolsters though, so not too much of a problem.

They do run OK apart from that, apart from a bit of a squeak from one axle, but I think I've been lucky and wouldn'r rush to purchase another kit with MDF axleboxes. JMORG changes his for metal ones, which is a good idea I think, but pushes up the cost...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by FWLR » Sun May 10, 2020 8:27 am

That should have been ( Lead ) Andrew, not flipping "led". But I guess you knew what I might... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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