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LITTLE VAN FOR FWLR

Post by FWLR » Mon May 22, 2023 8:35 am

While I haven't been to good with those stupid health problems not allowing me to do much on our line, I have been busy with others things. Some railway related, some not. So I had been thinking at attempting to fully scratch build a van, of course without me making any steel wheels.. :roll:


So I have now finished the van. It has taken me about 8 weeks, I know that's a long time. Members will remember I think, that I have been 3D printing some chassis, I did get a bit carried away with them though. :lol: :lol:
The van is made from ply and my own chassis and buffers. Me being me, I haven't taken photos of all the build. SORRY GUYS. :cry:

The chassis I used. It doesn't have any ironmongery on it.
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The build of the van without the roof, which I did with 1,5mm bassboard.

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After painting it inside and out, I did paint the inside without the roof on. I realised I also didn't put any lines in for the separate boards. This blooming memory is getting worse... :lol: So I had to put them in after, it's not a job I recommend though. I sliced my fingers a few times :roll: Still I managed to pull it off I think.

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There was something I complete missed of course, how the heck do the railway workers get anything into the van. Now I could have just put some straps on and put a handle at it would have passed looking like it had someway of loading things, but me being me thought that wouldn't do. So out came the 3mm drill bit and drilled a series of lines along were I thought was the middle. I did measure it.... Then out came the little saw and cut through the remaining wood and smoothed off with sandpaper. It turned out ok I think.

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The ironmongery was then 3d printed along with the door handle plus the roof vent Also little gem art were then glued on and a little bit of weathering and the van is finished.
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It is a little bit light, tried it going over the bridge and around the very tight curve on the right of the line and it kind of stubbled.... a lot.....So some lead will be added underneath and then hopefully it will be ok.

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Re: LITTLE VAN FOR FWLR

Post by ge_rik » Mon May 22, 2023 9:19 am

Looks pretty darn good to me Rod. Of course, now you've built this one, the next will be a lot easier. :lol:

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Re: LITTLE VAN FOR FWLR

Post by Peter Butler » Mon May 22, 2023 10:25 am

Interesting story of a rescue mission there Rod, still it turned out well in the end. Looks good with the weathering too.
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Re: LITTLE VAN FOR FWLR

Post by FWLR » Tue May 23, 2023 11:23 am

ge_rik wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 9:19 am Looks pretty darn good to me Rod. Of course, now you've built this one, the next will be a lot easier. :lol:

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Yes it's given me the confidence to try another one, maybe a bit longer this time. Trouble is it may take twice has long...

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Re: LITTLE VAN FOR FWLR

Post by FWLR » Tue May 23, 2023 11:26 am

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 10:25 am Interesting story of a rescue mission there Rod, still it turned out well in the end. Looks good with the weathering too.
Thanks Peter,

It was a mistake that won't happen again...he say's... :roll: I also tried not to overdo the weathering, I tend to do far too much at times. Trying to be more cautious with it.

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Re: LITTLE VAN FOR FWLR

Post by drewzero1 » Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:19 pm

This is adorable! Really love the proportions. I think I need a couple of these to mix into a tipper skip train, and a stubby brake van to match!

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Re: LITTLE VAN FOR FWLR

Post by FWLR » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:43 am

drewzero1 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:19 pm This is adorable! Really love the proportions. I think I need a couple of these to mix into a tipper skip train, and a stubby brake van to match!
They aren’t that hard to make Drew, you just need to take your time πŸ•°οΈ and think would it work this way. I don’t know if you have done any scratch builds for 16mm, but I just took some measurements from a van I already have and took it from there. The beauty of working with wood is you can always use it for something else if a mistake is made. I tend to do it a lot πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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Post by drewzero1 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:20 pm

I've done some scratchbuilds, but I always have trouble with getting the corners to line up. I noticed the corners on this van are really neat... Do you have a trick for measuring/lining up the joints?

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Re: LITTLE VAN FOR FWLR

Post by FWLR » Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:15 am

I use these Drew.
The small ones are ceramic and the longer ones I 3D printed.

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I also use these small clamps.

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Like this.

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It's a bit fiddly, but it works. The same goes for the ends, but then I will use the longer ones. You have to remember to put the squares away from the glue, even the ceramic ones will catch a little bit. The 3D printed ones will stick no problem..Don't ask.. :lol: :lol:

In the photo I have used the larger g clamps to hold the middle of the sides down, because the small clamps are just that, too small....

Hope this helps Drew, with a little patience you will be able to get neat corners, well mostly if you cut your wood or HIP clean, by that I mean square. I use a little modelling saw for the bench now, Anne bought it for my Christmas last year. It is such a brilliant little saw, wish I had it years ago.

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Post by drewzero1 » Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:04 pm

Nice jigs Rod, you've already got my gears turning. I'll see what I can come up with for the 3d printer, and I'll look into the modeling saw as well. I typically use my big bandsaw for the little stuff but it's hard to get a clean straight line on that, even with a fence.

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Post by FWLR » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:26 am

This is what I found on the web. It's in the USA and looks a decent machine, better than mine that's for sure. It has the advantage of a sanding disc and four blades.

I am not involved with this company, so it's your choice if you decide to buy one.

I would though...


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If you haven't guessed, it's on the bay. :thumbright:

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Post by -steves- » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:23 am

Rod

I just love those 90 degree jig brackets that you use for making things square. I will be printing myself a few of these off. Thank you very much for the idea :thumbup:
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Post by drewzero1 » Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:38 pm

FWLR wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:26 am This is what I found on the web. It's in the USA and looks a decent machine, better than mine that's for sure. It has the advantage of a sanding disc and four blades.

I am not involved with this company, so it's your choice if you decide to buy one.

I would though...


:thumbright: :thumbright:


If you haven't guessed, it's on the bay. :thumbright:
Wow, that looks pretty good... I'd been looking into building a table and fence I could clamp onto my dremel, but this would certainly be easier. Hmmm.

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Post by FWLR » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:00 am

-steves- wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:23 am Rod

I just love those 90 degree jig brackets that you use for making things square. I will be printing myself a few of these off. Thank you very much for the idea :thumbup:
No problem Steve, hope you get your builds nice and square now. It's very easy with them, just remember to keep any glue, especially super glue away from the squares otherwise it hell trying to remove them, believe me I know... :lol: :lol:

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Post by drewzero1 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:34 pm

Rod, now that I'm finally getting around to copying you, do you happen to know the approximate dimensions of this or the other one you posted recently? I think I made mine too big and it's hiding the cute wheels under the side overhang. Mine ended up 3Β½"W x 4Β½"L x 4Β½"H for just the box body. (Roughly 9cm x 11cm x 11cm)

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Post by StuartJ » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:38 pm

drewzero1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:34 pm Rod, now that I'm finally getting around to copying you, do you happen to know the approximate dimensions of this or the other one you posted recently? I think I made mine too big and it's hiding the cute wheels under the side overhang. Mine ended up 3Β½"W x 4Β½"L x 4Β½"H for just the box body. (Roughly 9cm x 11cm x 11cm)
The "other one" is the Invicta Model Works kit https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14309 for Roy Link's interpretation of the ex Chat Moss van grounded at Borth - drawing is here:
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Post by drewzero1 » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:51 pm

Thanks Stuart, just from eyeballing I can see that I'll need to narrow it down a little to fit the proportions :salute:

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Post by FWLR » Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:43 am

Hi Drew,

Sorry it's been some time with this, I forgot all about your question...sorry :roll:

I have packed the van away for winter up in the loft, but I will go and have packed the van away for the winter up in the loft, I will get the dimensions for you today or at by the least tomorrow if that's ok Drew. I tend to make more of my builds in the winter and pack them away until I can get tp use them later on in the year.

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Post by drewzero1 » Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:09 pm

FWLR wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:43 am Hi Drew,

Sorry it's been some time with this, I forgot all about your question...sorry :roll:

I have packed the van away for winter up in the loft, but I will go and have packed the van away for the winter up in the loft, I will get the dimensions for you today or at by the least tomorrow if that's ok Drew. I tend to make more of my builds in the winter and pack them away until I can get tp use them later on in the year.
No hurry Rod! I can wait until spring or whenever you'd usually get it out. I've had little time for trains the past few weeks and I have a feeling the coming week will be the same. :blah5:

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Post by FWLR » Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:56 am

Well I have finally got around to getting my builds down from the loft now that the weather here seems to be improving for a few days. The dimensions are pretty much the same has what you have done for your van Drew. Baring in mind that I 3d printed my own chassis and because the bed on the printer is only 150x150 I am limited to how long I can print most things. I know that splitting the chassis in the splicer I can make them longer, but I don't really like trying to glue them back to the length I want them to be. I also think that it makes them weaker.

Anyway, my dimensions are,

Length 118,
Height 100_____110 to bottom of the buffers,
Width 80.

They are all mm dimensions. I did measure it on imperial too. I do tend to use metric now though, I find it easier funny enough, although I will go back to imperial sometimes, having been brought up on it.

Length 4.25,
Height 3.96____4.38 to the bottom the buffers,
Width 3.15

I am now though in the process of making some more with a slightly longer chassis that I managed to do on the printer, I will also be making the body's wider too. Taking the measurements from a kit from Jerry Irwin's brilliant kits, one I built last year I think it was, it could have been early this year...

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