New Wholestick Cane Trucks
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
Most impresive Aaron, you have succeeded in making mundane items stand out and show their individual importance. Wonderful work.
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
Nicely put - I agree!Peter Butler wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:51 am you have succeeded in making mundane items stand out and show their individual importance.
- Old Man Aaron
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
Thanks gents, can't let my standards slip.
15/12/21
Not far to go now. Couldn't find any suitable stencils for numbering the headstocks, and I wasn't going to make a paper stencil, or hand-paint them like the old trucks had. Didn't want to spend the money on custom decals either. Not every mill numbered their trucks anyway.
Mills lashed the cane onto the trucks with either cable or chain. Kinda stumbled bottom-backwards into getting a great result, here. Experimentation paid off..
Coarse thread was cut to 7½" lengths (next batch will have 8½") and tied onto Binnie hooks - which were prepped and painted to match the rest of the metalwork. They're a little big for this job, but they work well with the split pins I'm using for anchor points.
Superglue was soaked into the thread to stiffen it up, but the fuzziness remained. This was burned off with a heat gun. (candle was too intense and focused, just burns the thread) The heat gun had an interesting effect in that it melted the superglue, allowing the thread to droop under it's own weight.
This drooping and re-solidifying effect made for a very convincing beat-up old cable, which is still flexible enough to wrap around things.
16/12/21
An 0.8mm hole was drilled in each winch barrel, and the "cable" superglued into place with a fine-tipped applicator. A couple of cables were made to look neatly reset after unloading, but most were just more-or-less secured by wrapping around a stanchion or two, as there's no time for tidy when unloading.
Trucks must be unloaded quickly to keep the mill fed, any patch-ups made in the truck shop, then returned to the empty yard ASAP for re-deployment to the fields.
17/12/21
The trucks at this stage weigh 40g, which although I've not tested them, I feel is a bit too light. Full-size wholestick trucks are very light and prone to derailment at the best of times, particularly when being pushed around curves. As I'd like to pull long rakes, I don't want these too heavy, so only 15g of lead flashing was added.
Pre-painted the pieces where they might be seen through any gaps in the planks - another lesson learned from mistakes in my early trucks, many years back.
Conversely, those old trucks were weighted to 270g each, to allow them to negotiate a terrible S-bend imposed by a tree on my first garden line.
18/12/21
I was going to airbrush-weather the running gear, but realised I'd have to make note of how I'd mixed the paint, so that subsequent truck batches will match this lot - but that method wouldn't play nice with my usual "make it up as I go" approach to airbrushing.
So I settled on three aerosol cans: A light, general dusting of "Jasper" (sort of a dusty/dirt colour), focusing slightly more heavily on the running gear.
Random "blotches" of dark brown for variation, followed by a light blotching of flat black under the chassis, and an even lighter overspray of black above - which was all to easy to overdo.
Forgot to get a before/after shot of the sprayed trucks, but you can see the first one I did, on the left of that pair, now re-coupled to another truck to have the treatment. A fan was set-up nearby.
Trucks became somewhat blackened in use, because the standing cane crops were burned a day or two before harvesting. This deals with any disease, the snakes, and leaves of the cane plant, leaving behind only the stalks, allowing the hand cutters to move in for harvesting.
After an hour or so, each truck was clearcoated with Dulux Duramax Flat Clear. That night, around the axleboxes and outer faces of the wheels were drybrushed with a dark, grimy acrylic mix, to simulate filthy, overfilled axleboxes.
19/12/20
Apologies for the very poor lighting in this ex-works shot - who'd have thought that pulling up most of your garden line and replacing it with a carport would make ex-works shots difficult to do?
Had to plonk 4m of track on the front lawn for these shots.
I'm extremely happy with how the rake has turned out, and am looking forward to hanging them behind one of my Fowlers. Even more-so to having four times as many trucks - but that's a job for future Aaron, and there's plenty enough to do in the meantime.. Thanks for reading,
15/12/21
Not far to go now. Couldn't find any suitable stencils for numbering the headstocks, and I wasn't going to make a paper stencil, or hand-paint them like the old trucks had. Didn't want to spend the money on custom decals either. Not every mill numbered their trucks anyway.
Mills lashed the cane onto the trucks with either cable or chain. Kinda stumbled bottom-backwards into getting a great result, here. Experimentation paid off..
Coarse thread was cut to 7½" lengths (next batch will have 8½") and tied onto Binnie hooks - which were prepped and painted to match the rest of the metalwork. They're a little big for this job, but they work well with the split pins I'm using for anchor points.
Superglue was soaked into the thread to stiffen it up, but the fuzziness remained. This was burned off with a heat gun. (candle was too intense and focused, just burns the thread) The heat gun had an interesting effect in that it melted the superglue, allowing the thread to droop under it's own weight.
This drooping and re-solidifying effect made for a very convincing beat-up old cable, which is still flexible enough to wrap around things.
16/12/21
An 0.8mm hole was drilled in each winch barrel, and the "cable" superglued into place with a fine-tipped applicator. A couple of cables were made to look neatly reset after unloading, but most were just more-or-less secured by wrapping around a stanchion or two, as there's no time for tidy when unloading.
Trucks must be unloaded quickly to keep the mill fed, any patch-ups made in the truck shop, then returned to the empty yard ASAP for re-deployment to the fields.
17/12/21
The trucks at this stage weigh 40g, which although I've not tested them, I feel is a bit too light. Full-size wholestick trucks are very light and prone to derailment at the best of times, particularly when being pushed around curves. As I'd like to pull long rakes, I don't want these too heavy, so only 15g of lead flashing was added.
Pre-painted the pieces where they might be seen through any gaps in the planks - another lesson learned from mistakes in my early trucks, many years back.
Conversely, those old trucks were weighted to 270g each, to allow them to negotiate a terrible S-bend imposed by a tree on my first garden line.
18/12/21
I was going to airbrush-weather the running gear, but realised I'd have to make note of how I'd mixed the paint, so that subsequent truck batches will match this lot - but that method wouldn't play nice with my usual "make it up as I go" approach to airbrushing.
So I settled on three aerosol cans: A light, general dusting of "Jasper" (sort of a dusty/dirt colour), focusing slightly more heavily on the running gear.
Random "blotches" of dark brown for variation, followed by a light blotching of flat black under the chassis, and an even lighter overspray of black above - which was all to easy to overdo.
Forgot to get a before/after shot of the sprayed trucks, but you can see the first one I did, on the left of that pair, now re-coupled to another truck to have the treatment. A fan was set-up nearby.
Trucks became somewhat blackened in use, because the standing cane crops were burned a day or two before harvesting. This deals with any disease, the snakes, and leaves of the cane plant, leaving behind only the stalks, allowing the hand cutters to move in for harvesting.
After an hour or so, each truck was clearcoated with Dulux Duramax Flat Clear. That night, around the axleboxes and outer faces of the wheels were drybrushed with a dark, grimy acrylic mix, to simulate filthy, overfilled axleboxes.
19/12/20
Apologies for the very poor lighting in this ex-works shot - who'd have thought that pulling up most of your garden line and replacing it with a carport would make ex-works shots difficult to do?
Had to plonk 4m of track on the front lawn for these shots.
I'm extremely happy with how the rake has turned out, and am looking forward to hanging them behind one of my Fowlers. Even more-so to having four times as many trucks - but that's a job for future Aaron, and there's plenty enough to do in the meantime.. Thanks for reading,
Last edited by Old Man Aaron on Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
Regards,
Aaron - Scum Class Works
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
Those are beautiful Aaron. You must be absoluteley chuffed(!), I know I would be.
Just a word of caution though, seriously, you need to be very careful with heating the superglue on the cables, heated superglue is nasty and gives off cyanide gas.
Just a word of caution though, seriously, you need to be very careful with heating the superglue on the cables, heated superglue is nasty and gives off cyanide gas.
Philip
Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
Wow!! That's going to make a really impressive train. Can't wait to see the video
Rik
PS Actually, the grass does look something like a sugar cane plantation.
Rik
PS Actually, the grass does look something like a sugar cane plantation.
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
A wonderful collection Aaron, congratulations on your persistence and patience, much more than I could manage!
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
Thanks again, good to know about the superglue. Lucky I had the garage door open to keep the heat gun from cooking me.
Had the same thought about the lawn, too.
Had the same thought about the lawn, too.
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
Sweet.
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
Wow...
Those are truly amazing. Each individual wagon is a masterpiece, the who rake is truly exceptional.
I want to see them behind one of your Fowlers too - are you sure you need a car port??!
Those are truly amazing. Each individual wagon is a masterpiece, the who rake is truly exceptional.
I want to see them behind one of your Fowlers too - are you sure you need a car port??!
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
When you see what I'm parking in it next month, it'll finally make sense..
Next time I visit another layout (Zillmere open day in April) I'll get some video. Aiming to have the Bundaberg Fowler finished and heading the rake..
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Aaron - Scum Class Works
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The unloaded rake will look great trundling along behind a small loco. Have you started stockpiling the straw brooms you'll need for a loaded rake?
If you want to defuzz cord, when I went through a ship modelling phase many years ago I found rubbing yellow wood glue into the cord used for model ship rigging would glue down any standing fibres. I never found the need to burn off any remaining fuzz.
My method was to cut a length of cord, clamp one end, tension it with one hand and run a bead of glue along it. Then run a thumb and forefinger along the cord to rub in the glue and press down any loose fibres.
The wood glue doesn't dry instantly like CA, so it can be draped in position before it dries. I found it was it easy to coil it up and drape it over belaying pins, but if it was hung with a weight on it, it dried dead straight and didn't need excessive tension to stay that way on a model.
I used the technique again recently when I was rigging the brake handles on one of the log bogie pairs.
Regards,
Graeme
If you want to defuzz cord, when I went through a ship modelling phase many years ago I found rubbing yellow wood glue into the cord used for model ship rigging would glue down any standing fibres. I never found the need to burn off any remaining fuzz.
My method was to cut a length of cord, clamp one end, tension it with one hand and run a bead of glue along it. Then run a thumb and forefinger along the cord to rub in the glue and press down any loose fibres.
The wood glue doesn't dry instantly like CA, so it can be draped in position before it dries. I found it was it easy to coil it up and drape it over belaying pins, but if it was hung with a weight on it, it dried dead straight and didn't need excessive tension to stay that way on a model.
I used the technique again recently when I was rigging the brake handles on one of the log bogie pairs.
Regards,
Graeme
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Re: New Wholestick Cane Trucks
A while back, I did pick up a pair of new Vietnamese grass brooms that were going cheap. They're finer and more floppy than millet/straw, and I'd like to have a go at modelling that characteristic droop the cane has over the sides of the truck. The loads will likely need painting, so if that goes badly I'll bulk order some cheap millets instead..
That sounds the better way to go, for rope. Even before treatment it certainly looks better than dyed kitchen twine I've been using on other projects.
Will have to add some to the next Cornwall Model boats order.. Cheers!
That sounds the better way to go, for rope. Even before treatment it certainly looks better than dyed kitchen twine I've been using on other projects.
Will have to add some to the next Cornwall Model boats order.. Cheers!
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Because they weren’t all that neat when they stacked them
Tim
Because they weren’t all that neat when they stacked them
Tim
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That certainly looks like a challenge - not just to model but to keep the wagons on the track!11thHour wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:04 am https://www.thetraveltart.com/wp-conten ... tralia.jpg
Because they weren’t all that neat when they stacked them
Tim
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