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Post by BertieB » Wed May 10, 2023 10:16 am

Soar Valley Light wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 8:50 pm “Not many models would stand up so well to such close up photography”
Too right. Very nice.

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Post by Andrew » Mon May 15, 2023 8:55 am

Morning all!

You may recall that, for the last couple of years there have been mysterious goings on in the (WH)WHR carriage shed - but also that every time I visit either the doors are tightly closed or I get chased away, so I've only got occasional glimpses of what's happening, which so far suggest a relatively ordinary WHR carriage taking shape? Albeit one that doesn't quite correspond to any photos or drawings I've seen. So why the secrecy? Who knows???

Last time I caught such a glimpse, the carriage had taken on a slightly unusual twist, in that it was painted a rather alarming shade of yellow. Was this a version of the 1934 "rainbow train" publicity drive to attract more passengers by painting the carriages funny colours???

No, it appears it was just undercoat, because yesterday as I walked past, the shed doors were open again for the first time in months:

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For a Mystery Carriage, it's not very mysterious... Oh well, it looks like it's nearly finished, so I guess we'll find out soon.

Cheers,

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by FWLR » Mon May 15, 2023 9:30 am

Looking good Andrew. :thumbright:

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Post by Andrew » Mon May 22, 2023 9:37 am

Hi all,

This weekend I took advantage of the good weather and went for another stroll in the direction of the Carriage and Wagon Works, with the intention of seeing if I could catch a glimpse of the latest progress on the Mystery Carriage.

The shed doors were closed, and the carriage was nowhere in sight. Just outside the shed, however, was a small flat wagon, on which some recently-painted cast iron lettering was drying in the sun. Only the last four letters remained, the rest having been boxed up to await being screwed onto the carriage, but I reckon they'll spell out "WELSH HIGHLAND Rly", like the those on the railway's Summer Cars.

There was childish sniggering coming from within the shed, presumably at my inability to speak Welsh, in which language I guess the remaining letters mean something terribly witty???

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Post by Old Man Aaron » Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:31 pm

The Welsh language is truly a mystery, one can only imagine what things the workshop staff know. :lol:
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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by James Butler » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:43 am

Andrew wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:37 am There was childish sniggering coming from within the shed, presumably at my inability to speak Welsh, in which language I guess the remaining letters mean something terribly witty???
My late father claimed that this stood for "Assistant Regional Signals Engineer" during his time at New Zealand Railways.

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Post by Andrew » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:43 am

James Butler wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:43 am
My late father claimed that this stood for "Assistant Regional Signals Engineer" during his time at New Zealand Railways.
Ah yes, that's probably it - not Welsh at all, but New Zealand-ish. Strange they should be referring to a signals engineer on a line with no signals, but that's probably what they were sniggering about? Pretty sophisticated stuff, way over my head...

More news from the carriage shed shortly - I heard rumours of a delivery...

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Post by Andrew » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:39 pm

So... having heard on the grapevine that a delivery was imminant, I made my way down to the yard, where the shed doors were once again closed, but a wagon stood outside - carrying carpet. Three rolls of the stuff?! Seems pretty extravagant for this narrow gauge backwater - are they planning to carpet the whole carriage?!


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I know very little about carpet, but presumably that mysterious letting on the back refers to the depth of the pile or something???

More news as I get it...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by philipy » Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:53 pm

Remind me not to walk on the carpets in your house with bare feet! :lol: :lol:
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Post by ge_rik » Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:25 am

I think the passengers will find the soles of their shoes will rapidly wear down - especially if they shuffle their feet .... :lol:

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Post by FWLR » Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:17 am

They will if they are 'soft shoe shuffling' :lol: :lol:

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Post by Andrew » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:52 pm

The poor passengers in my carriages have endured a lot worse than sandpaper!!!

Another delivery to the shed this afternoon:

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It looks like the seating's going in - rather plush seating too, I hope the foreman's overalls are clean...

The end must be in sight now???

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Post by Phil.P » Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:54 pm

Andrew wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:52 pm
The end must be in sight now???

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Nope! Can't see the end.. Too dark in there!
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Post by Andrew » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:14 pm

It seems the wait is finally over...

Passengers to fill the Mystery Carriage are arriving at the carriage shed - even if the manner of their arrival is somewhat unceremonious:

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For those still awake at the end of this three year long (and frankly, rather self-indulgent) saga, it seems that the shed doors will be thrown open at about 6pm this evening.

Fear not, I shall be there with a camera...

Andrew.

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Post by Andrew » Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:01 pm

For over three years, strange noises - and even stranger rumours - have been emerging from the carriage shed.

Today, the doors are opened:





Enjoy! Apologies for the cheesy soundtrack - I couldn't resist!

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Post by ge_rik » Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:53 pm

That's a wonderful looking coach.

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Post by philipy » Mon Jun 26, 2023 7:00 pm

What a very fine creation, well worth the wait.
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Post by Peter Butler » Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:20 pm

You're getting really good at this!... I love the 'what if' type of build.
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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by FWLR » Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:18 am

Thats a brilliant video Andrew and an even better observation coach. It's superb, one to be really proud of.. :salute:

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Post by Andrew » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:55 am

Hello again!

Glad you like it! It was one of those things where, once I'd thought of it, I just couldn't not do it - even if it did take over three years...

So, the idea is that it's a "what if"... What if, instead of drawing on the Caledonian Railway's "Maid of Morven" for inspiration when designing their observation cars, the modern day Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland team based their work on an original NWNGR/WHR carriage? If Ashbury, when they built the distinctive Summer Cars and "corridor" carriages in the 1890s, were also asked to build an observation car, a little like the Gladstone Car, but fully enclosed?

This is what I came up with, a kind of synthesis of the Gladstone Car (the interior layout and partitions), the corridor carriages (the exterior styling) and the modern observation cars (the round end):

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As per usual, it's made from ply and stripwood and runs on old Big Big Train bogies. Construction was fairly straightforward, with the obvious exception of that curved end - where the roof meets the end stuff's curving in three different planes, which came close to frying my brain at times. In the end, I relied on trial and error more than mathematics!

I wasn't sure how much use it would get, because it's not a genuine WHR carriage - but, after all this time building it, real and model have become rather blurred in my mind, so I don't think I mind about that too much!

The observation car will be known as "The Seymour Car". That's after some old friends of mine - but I was also rather pleased with the cheesy pun...

Cheers,

Andrew.

PS Fans of cult TV series The Prisoner may notice that Patrick MacGoohan has seemingly escaped The Village, legged it across The Cob, and boarded the 2:15 to Dinas Junction. Can "Russell" outrun Rover??!

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