Stuart's occasional loco thread - Boot Lane Works 'Lilibet'

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Stuart's occasional loco thread - Boot Lane Works 'Lilibet'

Post by StuartJ » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:05 pm

I've been working on this PDF Models de Winton kit for a year now and really need to get to finished so I can move onto other things. Here's a quick summary of the story so far:

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PDF Models De Winton by Stuart, on Flickr

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PDF Models De Winton by Stuart, on Flickr

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PDF Models De Winton by Stuart, on Flickr

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PDF Models De Winton by Stuart, on Flickr

After a very busy summer I've had some modelling time recently and I think that I've now made the last of the additional parts required - Bottom half of the water tank, Brakeblocks, Brake handle, Injector and pipework. There should also be some boiler hanging below the underframe; I tried to make something to fit here from some springy plastic but after I'd made all the necessary cutouts to go around the motor, gearbox and framing there wasn't enough left to hold it in place. Hopefully I can now move onto final painting and assembly and get this project finished.

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:19 pm

From my own experience PDF models are good kits and well priced. They can be made into very nice looking and good working models, with some time spent in preparation for a good paint finish. However, a year is about eleven and a half months longer than I would like to spend on one!
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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread

Post by ge_rik » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:14 pm

Looks good. Be interested to see how the motion is connected to the axle.

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:26 pm

Rik, the motor unit supplied by PDF has a reduction gearbox fitted. It is available from PDF as a separate unit.

I have some installed in my locos and they are good at 30:1 reduction with an option of 3v or 12v motors.
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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread

Post by ge_rik » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:12 pm

Peter Butler wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:26 pm Rik, the motor unit supplied by PDF has a reduction gearbox fitted. It is available from PDF as a separate unit.

I have some installed in my locos and they are good at 30:1 reduction with an option of 3v or 12v motors.
Thanks Peter. I was looking for the PDF website, but all that came up was a Facebook page which you need to sign up to.
I was actually meaning how the connecting rods and pistons are animated (if indeed they are). As the axle isn't cranked, I just wondered how the motion is linked. Is it by eccentrics or cams?
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Post by Peter Butler » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:31 pm

Try this link Rik...

https://www.pdf-models.co.uk/
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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread

Post by StuartJ » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:25 pm

ge_rik wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:14 pm Looks good. Be interested to see how the motion is connected to the axle.
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Thanks Rik
It's just a pair of very wide eccentrics on the axle that the rods fit loosely around. I would take a picture for you, but I'd have to take off all the loose parts first so I could turn it upside down!

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread

Post by -steves- » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:27 am

I have one of these in my boxes of kits somewhere to build. Seeing someone else build it first with such good pictures will be extremely helpful.

Looking forwards to seeing it running :)

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread

Post by ge_rik » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:49 pm

StuartJ wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:25 pm
ge_rik wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:14 pm Looks good. Be interested to see how the motion is connected to the axle.
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Thanks Rik
It's just a pair of very wide eccentrics on the axle that the rods fit loosely around. I would take a picture for you, but I'd have to take off all the loose parts first so I could turn it upside down!
I suspected that would be the case. Keep it simple ...... :thumbup:

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread

Post by StuartJ » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:41 pm

-steves- wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:27 am I have one of these in my boxes of kits somewhere to build. Seeing someone else build it first with such good pictures will be extremely helpful.
More build pictures here:
https://www.flickr.com/gp/cymro76/08WT9580H3
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https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id= ... =relevance

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - PDF Models de Winton

Post by StuartJ » Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:54 pm

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - PDF Models de Winton

Post by philipy » Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:37 pm

That looks very fine Stuart, well done.
Any chance ofa video?
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Post by ge_rik » Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:44 pm

What a little beauty!

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - PDF Models de Winton

Post by Old Man Aaron » Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:02 pm

Haven't seen many of these PDF Dewintons. Beautiful work there, love the extra detailing.
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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - Brush Battery Electric Loco

Post by StuartJ » Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:46 am

I started this project before Christmas but then the modelling mojo abandoned me for a while so I've only just finished it off. This is the excellent Loco Remote kit (https://www.locoremote.co.uk/3dprints.html) for the Brush Battery Electric Locos supplied to the Ministry of Supply during WWI. These locos worked at various depots in the UK, including Gretna Green armaments factory, the mustard gas factory at Avonmouth and Queensferry Supply depot in North Wales. After the war several locos found their way to the slate quarries in Blaenau Ffestiniog and two are still in daily use on Hythe Pier.

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The kit is 3D printed and very well thought out. It's driven by a gearmotor between the wheels (there is a layshaft here on the actual locos) and controlled by a Loco Remote MiniB unit under the bonnet. There is supposed to be a LiPo battery in the compartment behind but I preferred to use AAA Nimh batteries, so I have squeezed a 4x AAA holder under the other bonnet - only a prewired one will fit here as the traditional PP9 battery snaps take up a lot of room (I had a similar issue with the De Winton). Note that one of the battery slots is wired across to give the correct voltage. The only other change that I've made is some additional detailing in the cab.

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The cab parts had become a bit distorted after being packed in the box for too long, so the cab is a little wonky - clearly the loco had suffered an accident of some kind before it was bought by the quarry! However the loco was pronounced mechanically fit and given a new coat of paint before being set to work shunting the quarry. A war surplus dynamo was connected to one of the existing waterwheels to charge the batteries, which enabled the loco to continue working during WWII when petrol was rationed. There is a story that an attempt was made to use the loco to haul the empties back up to the quarry when petrol was unobtainable for the usual Simplex loco, but given the loco only had a 5hp motor it simply wasn't powerful enough.

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - Brush Battery Electric Loco

Post by ge_rik » Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:55 pm

That does look good!

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - Brush Battery Electric Loco

Post by philipy » Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:13 pm

Very nice indeed.
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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - Brush Battery Electric Loco

Post by Old Man Aaron » Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:41 am

Seen a few of these in the 16mm farcebook group, yours is the best I think.
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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - Brush Battery Electric Loco

Post by StuartJ » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:00 am

Thanks all. After fafing about with the DeWinton for so long I just wanted to build this one as intended and get it done!

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Re: Stuart's occasional loco thread - Boot Lane Works 'Lilibet'

Post by StuartJ » Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:08 pm

Modelling mojo has been distinctly lacking recently so I haven't done much more to the tramcar. In an effort to kick start things I have broken my rule (finish something before you start something else) and made a start on the first loco in the kit pile - a Boot Lane Works 'Lilibet' https://bootlane.org.uk/shop/kits/locos/lilibet. I have been building lots of Victorian stock and really need a Victorian steam loco to pull them! The kit is described a generic Victorian steam loco, but to my eye it is closest to the Saundersfoot Railway Manning Wardle 'Rosalind' so I am intending to make a few tweaks to make it look more like the early Manning Wardle locos beloved of the Colonel Stephens empire and other British light railways.

So far I have built the basic frame unit. After spending far too much time sanding the 3D printed parts of the De Winton I have wrapped the cylinders in thin styrene and will do the same with the major body parts:

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Boot Lane Works Lilibet by Stuart, on Flickr

I have discarded the supplied plate buffer beams in favour of the wooden buffer beams that these locos used to hide behind. I had a cunning plan to have swappable buffer beams for centre or side buffers using neodymium magnets set into the frame stretchers; unfortunately this has not been successful for a few reasons.

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