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Damn and blast it

Post by Big Jim » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:06 am

The current wife gave me an IP Railcar for Christmas and I made a start back in January. On my return to the shed yesterday I found that the conditions had not been kind to the components.

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It didn't take much to make it fall apart so it has been reduced to the sum of it parts and stained before it gets braced and reassembled.

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I gave it a quick coat of stain as I was wanting a wood finish but this seems to show the grain off across the whole panel and some what ruins the appearance of planks.
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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:28 am

Agreed Jim... my main complaint about the manufacture of wooden kits is the lack of thought in producing panels with the grain running in the correct direction. I know it is done to fit as many parts within a given area of material but any additional cost would be minimal and I'm sure would encourage more sales.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:02 am

It looks like the bits are bowed as well by damp?

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Post by Big Jim » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:40 am

It could be damp I suppose, they have bowed inwards on the score lines.
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Post by bazzer42 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:01 pm

Guess extreme heat wouldn't have helped, I'm sure some good glue and some heavy weights will cure it.

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Post by Big Jim » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:05 pm

I think I will give up on the wood effect and brace it with some brass angle. I suppose that any little critter such as this is unlikely to have remained pristine so perhaps a good slathering of battleship grey on the timber work and PMR blue on the tin work might look the part.

I am slightly reluctant to try and correct the bowing without a good bit of bracing as it may occur again.
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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:37 pm

I would go for either plywood or subtsantial stripwood as bracing stuck with PVA under weights to keep flat. I have doubts about the adhesive properties between brass and timber with the chance of further movement and differing expansion rates.
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Post by Lonsdaler » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:06 pm

Peter Butler wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:28 am Agreed Jim... my main complaint about the manufacture of wooden kits is the lack of thought in producing panels with the grain running in the correct direction. I know it is done to fit as many parts within a given area of material but any additional cost would be minimal and I'm sure would encourage more sales.
+1 on this. It's a great shame, and spoils many models.
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Post by Big Jim » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:01 pm

I really don't know what to do with these.
I think they are far to bad to try and straighten as the amount of bracing needed will stick out like a sore thumb.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:09 pm

Lineside wreck?

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Post by Big Jim » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:17 pm

Present from the current wife, so perhaps not.

I was think that it is the sort of little critter that would have been built in house so perhaps a more rough and ready body may be the answer.
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Post by Big Jim » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:25 pm

I have just found some plank pattern plasticard.
The planks are approx 2mm wide.

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Scale 1 1/2 inch wide, too narrow methinks.
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Post by Peter Butler » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:00 pm

Never say never Jim, bring them with you next time we meet and I will try to fix the problem. Other than that I will show you how to scribe Plastikard planking.
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Post by Big Jim » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:04 pm

Thank you Peter that sounds good.
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Post by philipy » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:15 am

Big Jim wrote: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:01 pm I really don't know what to do with these.
I think they are far to bad to try and straighten as the amount of bracing needed will stick out like a sore thumb.
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I'd be tempted to try laminating them again. Get some thin ply of the same thickness or slightly thicker, turn the grain the other way and glue the bowed sides to it using generous amounts of waterproof PVA, then leave it under heavy weights for about a week. That should hopefully straighten things out and give you a more rigid vehicle eventually. With more 'meat' at the corner joins you might find no extra bracing is required but if it is, I'd use short pieces of quadrant moulding.
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Re: Damn and blast it

Post by Busted Bricks » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:45 pm

What kind of plywood is that? I've never had any warp that bad and I've done my share of laser cutting (and still do).

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Re: Damn and blast it

Post by Big Jim » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:32 pm

Busted Bricks wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:45 pm What kind of plywood is that? I've never had any warp that bad and I've done my share of laser cutting (and still do).
Cr@p plywood I presume.

Seriously though, 1mm
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