Railbus for the PMR

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by philipy » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:46 am

Primer does show up a lot of dodgy detail that you didn't realise was there so it remains to be seen if it's worth it, but with that proviso I say keep the louvres.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:38 pm

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by steamer68 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:50 pm

Jim they look great nice job on the doors. :thumbleft:
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by IrishPeter » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:58 pm

Looks absolutely cracking, Jim! You are really cheering up a vehicle I had dismissed as a toy a long time ago.

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:07 pm

Thanks for the kind words. There is a lot to go into this to make it look the part. As I mentioned at the beginning there is an easy way and a hard way to convert one of the these.

If I can find one, I will change the trailing bogie for another Big Big part as this is the only bit I am not really happy with.

Nearly done on the body work, then its on to the electrics. 3 AA batteries should fit underneath and a Deltang RX will get stuffed under there as well. LED's fore and aft, plus lighting in side the body.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by steamer68 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Jim I'm looking forward to seeing the electrics fitted and working mate. :thumbleft:
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by philipy » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:18 pm

Excellent Jim.

Just a thought, they might look better if the body mouldings were cotinued across the door? Possibly just the lower one?
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by daan » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:11 pm

Those doors look like they belong there from the beginning. Great work!
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Peter Butler » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:31 pm

Well done Jim, the door looks just the part there and perhaps a couple of steps beneath would finish it off nicely?
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:53 pm

There will be steps, but I haven't worked out if they will inset or proud. Like wise the moulding will continue over the doors. The bottom will be straight but I have not decided on the upper two, they may sweep downwards and join in a manner similar to the noses. The other thought is that they form into a lozenge shape.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:37 pm

Something like this.

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Sorry for the 'fag packet' (well rolling paper) diagram, but you get the gist.

The second design looks like the lining on the side of DELTIC to me.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by philipy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:09 am

Not wishing to denigate your skills Jim, but those look very nice but horribly complicated curves to duplicate and keep even. It would be a cryin shame to end up spoiling what you've already achieved. I'd say the KISS princple applies here (Keep It Simple S.....)
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by bazzer42 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:35 am

Those doors look good. I have to agree with Philip that curves won't be easy. Perhaps a dry run on some scrap first. Although sometimes it is nice to push ourselves because when it works....

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by daan » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:13 pm

If you make a guidance for the curves to help you get the shape even on all corners, I think it must be possible to get it right. But I think a normal straight line would look better. You already have the bent shape on the front and back of the engine.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by steamer68 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:58 am

Jim the steps will be tricky to replicate but I'm sure you will do a great job no matter which design you decide to go for. :thumbleft:
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by RylstonLight » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:04 pm

I think I would go for straight, however the drop curves are easy if you have a cheap plastic compass-cutter. This are available from Olfa, Rolson and some own brands (one page google search prices £3.xx to £6.xx).

I am sure expensive metal versions are better but I rarely use them so bought the cheap plastic type, but when I do need them I really appreciate even the plastic Olfa one I have. There is a knack to using them.

If you try to cut too deeply it twists and distorts the arc. But using shallow cuts I produced the same shape in 1mm ply for the front-trim for my observation coach. The same in thin platicard should be a doddle if it copes with the weft-and-warp of the ply. In fact I just remembered I did one in plasticard for a lining template for the observation coach trim.

Some sized lozenges can be produced quickly in thin plastic card by making a rectangle then using a paper-punch to nibble a quarter circle off each corner of the rectangle. I used this to produce “cast iron” maker’s plates for a plastic card water-tank for the RLR running shed
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:02 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. The doors have been filled again and so are now drying but I have managed to have a bash at the steps.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by tom_tom_go » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:47 pm

Admire you determination Jimbo, I would of shelved this one by now!

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:49 pm

It has been tempting on many occasions.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by markoteal » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:10 pm

Nice steps - how do they line up with your platform heights?
Where did I put that uncoupler?

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