Semi-scale BR: a Bulleid tank engine

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Semi-scale BR: a Bulleid tank engine

Post by BertieB » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:34 pm

Hello again from the alternative reality where British Railways appears to have been 3'11" gauge – with a cartoon-scale 0-6-4T, based on one of Bulleid's satisfyingly brutal, Q1-derived tank engine proposals.

The consensus seems to have been that the Q1 defined 'ugly duckling', though personally I think they look terrific: uncompromising and functional, unconstrained by conventional styling sensitivities... all that sort of guff. Cheap to make and twice the power of an M7 but Bulleid, I've read, by now perhaps feeling his way towards the Leader project, abandoned it as 'boring and stodgy'. What a guy!

This one’s plasticard, with a few GRS and Walsall fittings, on a seriously customised Piko motorblock from G-bits (Thank you). About 390mm (15”+) length overall (rather shorter than prototypical, as usual). Not quite finished: spurious detailing and touching-up, varnish, glazing, crew, R/C, etc, to come. Made a bit of a mistake with that seam on the cab roof but, hell, I’m pretending not to notice, at least for now.

Scale, as always, is slippery.

Persuaded by reading so much about it on this forum, this is will be my first attempt at Deltang R/C battery power. Shedloads of room for it, I hope.

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Bulleid steps, that both look right and survive being taken down from the shelf, have me beat, so they've gone freelance. One set have already been broken and replaced
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Other Q1-derived, tender and tank engines were considered at one time or another, apparently. Plenty of scope for lots more plasticard
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Batteries to sit over motorblock; receiver upright at back of firebox; switch and charging socket under cab
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Paper in bunker was a temporary measure to stop me smearing epoxy all over the place. Cross-section 'loading gauge' curvature somewhat exaggerated

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Re: Semi-scale BR: a Bulleid tank engine

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:08 pm

Brilliant..... you have done it again, I love the way you adjust reality and get away with it!
The Deltang system is the best money can buy (in my opinion) and is fitted to all my locos.
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Re: Semi-scale BR: a Bulleid tank engine

Post by invicta280 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:28 pm

Awesome! What a handsome beast.
Video of it in action when you're ready please :D

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Re: Semi-scale BR: a Bulleid tank engine

Post by BertieB » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:42 pm

Peter Butler wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:08 pm
'...you adjust reality and get away with it!'
That's very kind of you, thank you - I do, um, wonder what on earth I'm doing with this stuff occasionally. And, yeah, I'm beside myself with excitement regarding getting the Deltang stuff installed and working. Can't help but be aware though, that it may well make the rest of the home fleet immediately obsolete! Well, not quite so much fun, at least

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Post by BertieB » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:53 pm

invicta280 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:28 pm
'Video of it in action when you're ready please'
Yes, thank you. I'm rather hoping that the always-to-hand, immediacy of R/C ought to help improve my video efforts too...

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Post by tom_tom_go » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:43 am

You have loads of room for a Deltang setup in that loco as I can get my installs comfortably fitted into live steamers.

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Post by Andrew » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:26 am

What a monster, I love it! And I didn't know Mr Bulleid had some Q1-esque tank engines planned - yours is very believable, a kind of Q1/Standard tank love child, certainly not "boring and stodgy", although I love the quote. You've got a great eye for messing about with scale and proportions whilst still capturing the essence of the original loco/idea - I'm looking forward to seeing this one running...

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Post by FWLR » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:12 am

It’s all been said….Fantastic work. Forget about scale, who cares, it’s one of those builds that members and others should admire :thumbright: :thumbright:

By the way, what chassis did you use please.
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Post by Big Jim » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:40 am

Outstanding
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Re: Semi-scale BR: a Bulleid tank engine

Post by BertieB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:11 pm

Andrew wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:26 am
'What a monster, ...a kind of Q1/Standard tank love child...'
Thank you. Exactly. I've not seen drawings of this proposal but I've read that a criticism of the Q1 at the time was poor visibility when running tender first, so adopting the LMS / Standard tank, bunker and rear window arrangement would have seemed an obvious way to go, I thought.
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Re: Semi-scale BR: a Bulleid tank engine

Post by BertieB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:23 pm

FWLR wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:12 am
'...By the way, what chassis did you use please?'
Thanks. It's the smaller Piko 0-6-0 (BR80) motorblock, with bespoke rods, from G-bits (who have helped me out a great deal over the past few years) with the pick-up skates removed and larger wheels fitted.

And thank you, everyone, for your kind remarks.

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Post by ge_rik » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:53 pm

Lovely looking model. Always look forward to seeing your latest creations. Agree with you about G-Bits. I've found him to be vey helpful.

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Re: Semi-scale BR: a Bulleid tank engine

Post by BertieB » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:20 pm

ge_rik wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:53 pm
'Always look forward to seeing your latest creations'
That's very generous, thank you. I'm afraid you're (at least partly) to blame for my challenging new foray into Deltang R/C. But that's OK...

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Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:28 am

Rik got me into Deltang as well so you are not alone!

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Post by ge_rik » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:11 pm

Thanks folks. Not sure I can shoulder all that responsibility. I think David at Deltang must take a large chunk of the credit for inventing such a clever system

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