Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by big-ted » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:44 pm

Any chance you can post a pic of how short you cut the tubing on the valve? I'll try the same!

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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by Simon-m » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:56 am

Sure Ted

I will post a picture today,

I've steamed her about 6 times now & she's loosening up now, I had the burner set higher & it seems to run miles better, the safety valve lifted correctly too whilst running. I've a feeling this one needs a little more fire to get the best results. She started off from a stall without me giving her a shove.

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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by CharlesMac » Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:30 am

An observation on the Goodall Valve pictured. Does the hole in the valve go all the way through the valve body? The water should have 2 openings at the bottom of the valve for the water to pass through. Accucraft's Goodall valves use this arrangent. I have bought an aftermarket unit and it was not drilled through. By only having one opening it made the required pumping pressure from the pump bottle much harder. I drilled the valve body and it helped greatly. Might take a look and see if this was done. I have 10 engines, and all have the Goodall valve cross drilled and they work great.
The tubing as shown should be shorter and not be over the bottom edge of the valve.
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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by Simon-m » Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:04 pm

Ted,

Here's a picture of the modification I did to the silicone tubing.
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Hopefully it helps.

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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by big-ted » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:19 am

Definitely does, thanks!

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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by big-ted » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:48 pm

Hey Simon. Are you able to pump water through your Goodall valve with the valve removed from the boiler, as in the pic? I've cut the tubing on mine to a similar length to yours, but still can't get any water through it with a syringe. It just seems to me like the tubing fits too tightly around the valve body. Then it occurs to me that perhaps, when hot, the tubing is more pliable and allows water through more easily? I wont get to steam mine until next weekend at least, so curious if yours works "ex-vivo" so to speak?

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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by Simon-m » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:00 pm

Evening Ted,

I've never done it with the goodall removed from the boiler since I did the mod. What I did was take advice & buy a proper water refill bottle. The one I ordered was a regner one which is still to arrive.
I have managed to get my roundhouse bottle to fill the boiler though so to speak. I cut the end of my filler bottle which is a good few years old as the pipe end had warped a bit with the heat of live steam boilers. It's still not perfect & does give a spray back from the goodall but it is filling the boiler also. I know because when the safety valve starts feathering & I fill water its stopping the feathering of steam plus the gauge glass is moving.

When the regner bottle arrives I will do another test to see if it works any better. I have picked up this with GRS, personally I think its a poorly designed goodall valve & could do with refinements especially as the model is in accucraft territory regarding price.

On the up shot though, I've had mine in steam 8 to 10 times now & I am starting to get to know how to fire it well. She runs best when the burner is just giving a rasp you can hear, any lower it looses pressure. Once the gas is set, the regulator hardly needs touching for it to move off, don't be tempted to push it right down or it will go at the speed of the light down the track.

One tip when steaming the open cab version is to keep both the sliding doors on the cab back open, it improves airflow on the burner.

Hope that helps

Simon

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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by big-ted » Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:12 pm

Hmm. Not sure my experience is the same as yours. Mine needs VERY little gas flow to maintain pressure. Maybe partly a result of my having a lighter load behind it? If anything I have a slightly hard time getting the safety valve not to lift, but I think that will come with practice.

Mine is now running very well. A boiler fill lasts ~ 10 minutes, and I think a gas fill will probably be good for ~ two boiler fills once I figure out the Goodall valve. A solution is en route from GRS for that.


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Re: Bowande/GRS Quarry hunslet

Post by TeeJay » Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:53 am

Good morning,

A year on how are you finding your respective locos? I’ve seen a secondhand one come up for sale that really caught my eye and wondering about your thoughts after a longer period of owning them.

Many thanks

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