Live steam at a bargain price...?

Discussion of Live Steam locomotives should be located here
User avatar
-steves-
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 2412
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:50 pm
Location: Cambridge & Peterborough

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by -steves- » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:34 pm

I have to say though if you look at some of the things they are selling and the prices, they are like 1/10th of what they should be. Sometimes if something is too good to be true, then it probably isn't true, though the PayPal but does give you a fighting chance of getting your money back.
The buck stops here .......

Ditton Meadow Light Railway (DMLR)
Member of Peterborough and District Association
http://peterborough.16mm.org.uk/

User avatar
TonyW
Driver
Driver
Posts: 1357
Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 9:25 am
Location: North Wales
Contact:

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by TonyW » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:04 pm

..
Last edited by TonyW on Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:02 pm, edited 4 times in total.

User avatar
Jimmyb
Fireman
Fireman
Posts: 492
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:43 pm
Location: Weston-super-Mare

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by Jimmyb » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:54 pm

steamgeorge wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:16 pm The price has just gone up from yesterday - only by about £4 though I think. I'm tempted too..........
I think that is because the price is in dollars, so varies according to the exchange rate :)

User avatar
BorisSpencer
Fireman
Fireman
Posts: 251
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:36 pm
Location: East Northants

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by BorisSpencer » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:30 pm

Since following the link, my Facebook feed has been inundated with adverts for this.

I too am quite curious, but a word of caution, if it is a scam then they will probably ship you something (not necessarily what you asked for) this gets around the Paypal buyer protection, because they can show a proof of delivery.

The prices are very carefully set, low enough to be attractive but not high enough that you will invest a lot of additional expense/time making a fuss if it proves to be a scam.

User avatar
SimonWood
Trainee Driver
Trainee Driver
Posts: 655
Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:46 pm
Location: West Wales
Contact:

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by SimonWood » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:38 pm



Nice bit of detective work by someone over on the 16mm Assoc. Facebook page found this Youtube video. The poster states the loco was handbuilt by a friend and it took 2 years...

User avatar
Andrew
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3247
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:33 pm
Location: Bristol, UK
Contact:

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by Andrew » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:41 pm

I know labour's cheaper in that part of the world, but by my reckoning, if the same chap's building all of these he's on less than 2p an hour, and has a VERY long waiting list.

It is quite an appealing little loco...

User avatar
CaptainClockwork
Cleaner
Cleaner
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:39 pm
Location: Saint Louis, Missouri

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by CaptainClockwork » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:37 pm

Hi All,

I can confirm I have been dumb enough to order one of these.
I'll document what happens here; the possibility that I'll have to ask PayPal for my money back is pretty high, but what's life without a little risk?
Best Regards,
Ian

- I collect and operate weird and wonderful live steam locomotives -

invicta280
Trainee Driver
Trainee Driver
Posts: 664
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:24 pm
Location: kent england

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by invicta280 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:11 pm

Lovely little loco and at a great price but I'm trying to avoid buying anything from China at present.

User avatar
CaptainClockwork
Cleaner
Cleaner
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:39 pm
Location: Saint Louis, Missouri

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by CaptainClockwork » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:41 pm

invicta280 wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:11 pm Lovely little loco and at a great price but I'm trying to avoid buying anything from China at present.
Definitely the wiser choice, but I thought I'd go for it for the common good. Everyone needs a bad example!
Best Regards,
Ian

- I collect and operate weird and wonderful live steam locomotives -

User avatar
Mitch stack
Trainee Fireman
Trainee Fireman
Posts: 231
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:43 am
Location: Australia

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by Mitch stack » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:07 pm

Yes it is a scam, good thing im not buying it!!!
Mitch - Cockatoo Creek Tramway

User avatar
Jimmyb
Fireman
Fireman
Posts: 492
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:43 pm
Location: Weston-super-Mare

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by Jimmyb » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:55 pm

Needless to say I have not had any response to my email I sent them.

User avatar
CaptainClockwork
Cleaner
Cleaner
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:39 pm
Location: Saint Louis, Missouri

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by CaptainClockwork » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:34 am

Quick update: this past afternoon I received a shipment notification from the folks at hxhing.com; naturally, the tracking number they provided doesn't register literally anywhere, so this is looking more and more delightfully suspicious as time progresses.
Best Regards,
Ian

- I collect and operate weird and wonderful live steam locomotives -

Paul_in_Ricky
Cleaner
Cleaner
Posts: 30
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:44 pm

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by Paul_in_Ricky » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:09 am

CaptainClockwork wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:34 amthe tracking number they provided doesn't register literally anywhere, so this is looking more and more delightfully suspicious.
Not necessarily suspicious. I've often been sent 'tracking numbers' even for sensible carriers like Royal Mail, Hermes etc and they don't register until after the item has arrived, let alone the Chinese ones from obscure carriers that are impossible to trace.
I think you'll get the item eventually, but I'd be amazed if the promised delivery schedule is met, but stranger things happen.

User avatar
alanf
Cleaner
Cleaner
Posts: 37
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:52 pm
Location: South Cheshire

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by alanf » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:48 pm

I checked their registered office, its in London with one Director registered with a correspondence address in China, Incorporated 16th April 2020 and over sixty other companies registered at the same address. Don't know if that helps in any way.

User avatar
Andrew
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 3247
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:33 pm
Location: Bristol, UK
Contact:

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by Andrew » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:50 pm

CaptainClockwork wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:34 am Quick update: this past afternoon I received a shipment notification from the folks at hxhing.com; naturally, the tracking number they provided doesn't register literally anywhere, so this is looking more and more delightfully suspicious as time progresses.
Thanks for reporting back on your progress, I'm really intrigued. Fingers crossed for a good outcome!

Andrew.

CSL
Trainee Fireman
Trainee Fireman
Posts: 202
Joined: Thu May 11, 2017 9:42 pm

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by CSL » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:17 pm

Andrew wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:50 pm
Thanks for reporting back on your progress, I'm really intrigued. Fingers crossed for a good outcome!

Andrew.
I think a 'good' outcome is extremely unlikely! But he's said he's happy with the risk...

EDIT: see below.
Last edited by CSL on Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

CSL
Trainee Fireman
Trainee Fireman
Posts: 202
Joined: Thu May 11, 2017 9:42 pm

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by CSL » Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:17 pm

CaptainClockwork wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:37 pm ... the possibility that I'll have to ask PayPal for my money back is pretty high, but what's life without a little risk?
The thing for me is this: assuming it is a scam (which I confirm I do assume), it's not so much about people who can afford a one-off loss of fifty quid taking a bit of risk, but more about (a) giving that fifty quid to the black market and (b) actively encouraging the scammers both to invent more scams and take money from people who can't easily afford to lose it.

User avatar
CaptainClockwork
Cleaner
Cleaner
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:39 pm
Location: Saint Louis, Missouri

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by CaptainClockwork » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:10 pm

CSL wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:17 pm
CaptainClockwork wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:37 pm ... the possibility that I'll have to ask PayPal for my money back is pretty high, but what's life without a little risk?
The thing for me is this: assuming it is a scam (which I confirm I do assume), it's not so much about people who can afford a one-off loss of fifty quid taking a bit of risk, but more about (a) giving that fifty quid to the black market and (b) actively encouraging the scammers both to invent more scams and take money from people who can't easily afford to lose it.
That's a completely valid way to look at this, and I do agree that this isn't something I would actively encourage others to do, but I like to think that I'm helping to educate the public, if only a little. If this does indeed prove to be a scam, I have a paper trail to prove it as such, so if and when the next scammer tries to hit the garden railway community, we're that much more aware and on our guard.
And hey, on the very small off-chance that this ISN'T a scam, it'll at least make for an interesting story.
Best Regards,
Ian

- I collect and operate weird and wonderful live steam locomotives -

User avatar
ge_rik
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 6497
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:20 pm
Location: Cheshire
Contact:

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by ge_rik » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:33 pm

CaptainClockwork wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:10 pm That's a completely valid way to look at this, and I do agree that this isn't something I would actively encourage others to do, but I like to think that I'm helping to educate the public, if only a little. If this does indeed prove to be a scam, I have a paper trail to prove it as such, so if and when the next scammer tries to hit the garden railway community, we're that much more aware and on our guard.
And hey, on the very small off-chance that this ISN'T a scam, it'll at least make for an interesting story.
Ian
Assuming you paid through PayPal, you should be protected. I've found PayPal to be very forthcoming on the occasions when goods I'd paid for failed to turn up. I do hope it all works out and your loco (and the track...) arrives, though.

Rik
------------------------
Peckforton Light Railway - Blog Facebook Youtube

User avatar
Jimmyb
Fireman
Fireman
Posts: 492
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:43 pm
Location: Weston-super-Mare

Re: Live steam at a bargain price...?

Post by Jimmyb » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:06 am

As per my post on the first page, I still have not had a response from my email to them, but maybe they are just very busy.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests