Llewellyn Loco Works #1

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:51 pm

Chain drill the cab foot plate via DRO

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The loco crew called into the erection shop and had a look over the loco and made some comments about how some of servos will get under foot when they are fitted.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by DonW » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:04 am

And finding somewhere to place the Gas tank as well as the servos.
Lovely work. I assume you find chain drilling a better option than milling a slot.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by tom_tom_go » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:21 am

This little dragon will be coal fired Don.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:58 pm

DonW wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:04 am And finding somewhere to place the Gas tank as well as the servos.
Lovely work. I assume you find chain drilling a better option than milling a slot.

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This fella will be coal fired for the full experience and atmosphere. 8)
I have a servo under the front foot plate for the cylinder drains. The reverser one will be in the half length R/H tank. The throttle one will have to be on the foot plate. I am also contemplating a servo to flip the fire door, to have better control of firing, cool the fire when standing or shunting. (in the cab) Not sure if it will be of any use but heaps of fun. Also one servo for the whistle which I hope to mount under the right side of the cab and the whistle is a pretend WHB air reservoir under the running board and tank.
I could mill, but the corners will still need a file unless you use a very small diameter cutter. I drilled and then filed it with the largest Mill files I had and checked it for dimensions and got all to 0.10mm . Filing is my daily work. It did not take long.
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:14 pm

In hindsight I would have recessed the front tube plate deeper into the boiler barrel so the smoke box could be attached in a more traditional method, of rivets, screws etc but ................... So I have have hatched a plan to use the super heater attachments to pull and secure the smoke box to the barrel. Unlike the original (vague) drawings I am going for a fixed smoke box/boiler to the saddle and allow the expansion back wards in the frames, as like full size locos. Fixed at the rear and expansion movement forwards into the fixed smoke box/saddle seems a strange way to do it ? ! Considering that joint will foul up, even seize with the muck in the box and or keeping the joint air tight for good steaming, it just did not make sense. A reminder it is all a design and metal working exercise for the locos to come. The material is LG2 bronze a friend had left over, in payment for this material I brazed up some more full size loco motion oil pots that were needed as spares for the Rattler's 974 and 967.

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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:11 pm

Parted off the bronze smoke box barrel.

Slow but incremental progress.


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While in the Red Room MAM shows me another one of her Orchids doing its thing.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by bambuko » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:15 pm

I wish there was "like" button on this forum, to show appreciation for your posts :) ...
so here it is instead:

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bambuko wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:15 pm I wish there was "like" button on this forum, to show appreciation for your posts :) ...
so here it is instead:

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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:36 pm

A trepanning type of cut. I originally ground this parting tool blade for use on the driving wheels. The pics would be here earlier in this thread.

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Cooking up the smoke box to disc.

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A nice meniscus of silver on the other side


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The reason for all this will become apparent as time goes by, however it is all due to inadequate published drawings and details, and I missed the detail that was missing.
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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:22 pm

Red Room action last night, some progress on the smoke box after it was pickled in the Citric tub.

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Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:25 pm

Beautiful soldering!

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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:00 am

tom_tom_go wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:25 pm Beautiful soldering!
Thanks, it is what I do every week while making Llewellyn frames.
If the fit is good, all is clean, bring up the temperature slowly and all is evenly cooked , bingo
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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:07 am

Saw and files

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5/16" HSS rough out on the bench grinder, then a few passes on the cutter/grinder for a special boring bar

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Clean out the smoke box to boiler barrel joint.

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It all fits with the super heater header in place

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Getting ready to fly cut the saddle

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Boring head in action

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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:10 am

In the frames

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Post by tom_tom_go » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:09 am

Love the colouring of the copper, seems a shame to paint it.

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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:09 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:09 am Love the colouring of the copper, seems a shame to paint it.
Yes, it has a nice aesthetic, steam punkish comes to mind, which I don't mind.
The stage I fear most is "Painting" I detest painting.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:36 pm

Have you considered chemical blackening?

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Post by DonW » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:02 pm

I am rather in Awe or your machine work, you seem to be able to just set it up and go.

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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:38 am

tom_tom_go wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:36 pm Have you considered chemical blackening?
All things will be considered, yes, for blackening for some parts. No idea of what colour this loco will be. I want to paint it myself and do some lining. I have few books on the subject, however at my current rate of progress is will be a few years till I get there.
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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:47 am

DonW wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:02 pm I am rather in Awe or your machine work, you seem to be able to just set it up and go.

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Yeah, it is nice to have the materials in stock and when I don't I order other sizes with what I need. I set up the tools for tomorrow in mind and so they are on hand. I sort of went to Town a few years ago when I finally set up the Red Room. It had to be a separate room from the bike workshop and more airy and natural light. After 35 years of ready ME magazines I was read to spend $20 K aud on the tools etc. I rather buy a second hand car and have a nice workshop rather than the other way.
I work to live.
To reiterate, I am using the garden railway and this loco build to learn and aquire skills, tools and materials for the magnum opus build. QR C17 class #253 as it was delivered in 1921 and in 5" gauge.
If I live long enough I would like to build a Foden Steam Lorry in 4" scale and then a 5" QR Beyer Garratt. One has to dream.
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