Annual loco sales?

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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by Busted Bricks » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:52 pm

Should the boiler be a kit as well (ready to solder with flanged ends) or ready to use do you reckon? Perhaps both?

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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by Big Jim » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:59 pm

I can't see any problems with offering both. No need to keep the boilers made up. Just assemble when required.
Might be worth checking the liability issues with selling assembled boilers though.
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Post by Busted Bricks » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:04 pm

I have looked into boilers and if I make them ready to use, they will be tested on certified test equipment and the test procedure documented.

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Post by Big Jim » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:37 pm

Fair enough.
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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by FWLR » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:06 am

I would buy one tomorrow if you had any built. :thumbup:
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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by Busted Bricks » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:09 pm

FWLR wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:06 am
I would buy one tomorrow if you had any built. :thumbup:
Well, first I have another move to sort out. This will be the 40th time I move in my life!

I think the budget end of the market is being left behind a bit. I think a very simple loco might appeal to people who would like to get involved with live steam but don't want to take out a second mortgage on their home.

I really like this very simple loco made by Eric Schade:


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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by bazzer42 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:48 pm

That was a cute loco, since buying a Willi I have become a fan of geared oscillators. Will keep an eye on what comes out next year. (Only just caught up with this thread)

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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by FWLR » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:43 pm

Busted Bricks wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:09 pm
FWLR wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:06 am
I would buy one tomorrow if you had any built. :thumbup:
Well, first I have another move to sort out. This will be the 40th time I move in my life!



I really like this very simple loco made by Eric Schade:

I love it, it’s so unique and quirky ..... :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by Busted Bricks » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:55 pm

It's a very simple design and meths fired. There was also the BAGRS some years ago:

http://www.panyo.com/mso/BPE.htm

I reckon I could make kits or RTR locos along those lines at very affordable prices but it seems like scale, highly detailed locos is what is in demand these days.

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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by FWLR » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:02 pm

Well if you did a gas one i would differently buy one. :thumbup:
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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:06 pm

Busted Bricks wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:55 pm
I reckon I could make kits or RTR locos along those lines at very affordable prices but it seems like scale, highly detailed locos is what is in demand these days.
These would be popular providing the price was lower than Mamod/MSS and they were reliable which I think is what puts people off buying cheaper brands.

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Post by Big Jim » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:11 pm

What he said ^^^
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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by Busted Bricks » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:31 pm

The £200 price tag for a RTR MSS loco is hard to beat. It might be possible with meths firing. A single cylinder oscillator geared loco should be a pretty consistent performer. I would not omit a displacement lubricator and would also use CNC turned steel wheels. Boiler would be silver soldered.

In kit form there is more scope for keeping cost down. Steam connections could simply be silicone tubing like on the BAGRS loco. It acts as a safety valve as well. Of course that would not do if running at public events and could not be deployed on a RTR loco. The problem I see with some of the "project" locos that have appeared of the years (the Denver is another one) is that you had to source parts from a number of suppliers. I would want to offer a complete kit for a basic loco and the option to buy upgrade parts/enhancements.

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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:08 pm

I think the kit idea sounds the way to go as it allows the builder to paint to his/her choice.

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Re: Annual loco sales?

Post by cncmodeller » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:40 pm

I think what would sell is some more realistic chassis of well known engines that are never going to be mass produced. Then you've always got the option of keep adding bits as and when.
Take Talyllyn/Dolgoch/Corris no3, they're well liked but none of the chassis of existing locos are anywhere near the correct wheelbase or wheel diameter or the cylinders are too big and clunky. It would make for an easier build as you could CNC and laser cut the bits and you only have to air test the chassis and not have to build the boiler or the rest of it at all. A lot of people buy stuff and never use it, because it's all about the buying experience and the 'potential' of a new project.How many locos that have only just been released are almost immediately on ebay? It's probably either the gloss worn off the purchase or the wife needs yet another handbag in a slightly different colour.

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