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How to add rust finish?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:47 am
by siclick33
Can anyone give me some advice on adding a rust finish to a quarry wagon?

I think I have read that people use iron powder of some sort and vinegar/copper sulfate. What exact products do you use and how do you apply it?

Has anyone used the Modern Masters metal effects rust kit? If so, is it any good?

Re: How to add rust finish?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:18 am
by ge_rik
I used Scenic Rust on my tipplers, but there are cheaper methods which I'm sure others will outline

https://riksrailway.blogspot.com/2010/1 ... agons.html

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Rik

Re: How to add rust finish?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:24 pm
by siclick33
Thanks very much for your reply.

That is another product that I hadn't seen before. The instructions for the Slater's wagon (that I will be using it on) mention 'Instant Rust' and I have seen another product called 'Metal Effect Rust Finish'. I might have to have a play with them to see which ones work best, although I'm guessing that they are somewhat similar.

Re: How to add rust finish?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:19 pm
by philipy
If you look through Andrew's thread, he has a very effective method of producing rust using iron powder and copper sulphate.
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=6380&p=169100&hilit=rust#p169100

Re: How to add rust finish?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:03 pm
by Andrew
Just catching up here...

I still feel like I've got a lot to learn re adding rust in this way, I'm not 100% happy with the results yet.

I'd suggest getting the finest iron filings possible, and experimenting a bit - copper suplhate seems to produce lots of very orange rust pretty quickly, wheras spraying with vinegar makes a browny (sometimes almost black) rust, which takes longer to appear. I keep meaning to find out whether changing the strength of the copper suplphate solution makes a difference. One thing I have discovered it that a dilute wash of paint afterwards (eg too represent coak dust in the rusrty interior of a steel-bodied wagon) seems to work quite well.

Cheers,

Andrew.

PS I'd also suggest reading up on the safe disposal of copper sulphate - it turns oput it's nasty stuff, you can't just tip it down the sink ...

Re: How to add rust finish?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:59 pm
by siclick33
I have bought some of this to try.

I have no idea how this is going to go!!

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Re: How to add rust finish?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:24 pm
by Andrew
Good luck - let us know how you get on!

Re: How to add rust finish?

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:56 am
by philipy
Yes, it will be interesting, although at a guess its just fancy packaging for Andrew's method. By the looks of it, the LH bottle is just a primer, the centre one is iron powder and and the RH bottle is Copper Sulphate ( The blue colour is the dead giveaway! ).

Re: How to add rust finish?

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:45 pm
by siclick33
That is true.

Although the ‘Iron’ bottle is a paint, not iron filings. It’s an expensive way to do it, but hopefully convenient.

The first attempt has shown some promise but needs some work. I’ll post a picture later.