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Bowaters Models - 16mm Rolling Stock Kits

Post by angr607 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:00 pm

After a number of people have asked if these will be available to other people, I've decided to start producing a series of kits for the 16mm Market based on the stock of the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Light Railway/Bowaters Paper Railway under a completely different identity 'Bowaters Models'.

After a period of research, I've decided to make available a small selection of the various items of rolling stock that were used on the line all based around the standard 10/14Ton Pulp Wagons from various builders. All of them will feature multimedia construction with the goal being to produce accurate kits that people with very little 16mm kit building experience could assemble with relative ease. The current plan is to produce the kits to order with a short delay between order and delivery (ideally no more than 14 days).

The initial designs are for 5 Wagon Variants (1 Flat wagon, 3 10 Ton Wagons and 1 14 Ton Wagon) and all 3 different Staff Coach Conversion variants (Coaches 641 and 657-660). All of them have been drawn up with prototype kits made for the 14 Ton Butterley Build Plup Wagon and one of the Staff Coach conversions (Coach 641). I've also drawn up a version for Coach 641 as running today for a Proof of Concept so I could work out what worked and what didn't design wise. Bogies are all by IP Engineering with Accucraft Chopper Couplings.

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Coach 641 as Running today aka the Proof of Concept. Known problems with the Headstocks as designed meant they were 20mm too short making it look shorter than it should have been

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The Prototype for the 14 Ton Pulp Wagons built by Butterley. Etches have been drawn up to overlay the sides, provide Numberplates and to add locating sections for side stakes.

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The Proof of Concept and first Pulp Wagon prototype shown together on my Garden Railway during Coupling trials which ended in success!

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Both Wagons shown at work behind one of my Engines at a friend's railway for the first time.

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First Coach 641 prototype under construction showing the interior seating arrangements for the kit

Hopefully I'll have some more news in the coming weeks as things progress.

Cheers,

Jon
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Post by Joe » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:11 pm

How much will you be charging? as i may be interested in the coach kit
Steam is highly under rated

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Post by laurence703 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:13 pm

I'll be watching this one! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with :)
No one expects the SPANISH ACQUISITION!!!

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Post by angr607 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:20 pm

Thanks Gents, with regards to pricing, the current estimates are the following. Only take them with a pinch of salt as they may change in the near future.

Flat Wagons - £30
10 Ton Pulp Wagons - £55
14 Ton Pulp Wagons - £65
Staff Coaches - £90

At the moment, that doesn't include Couplings (unlikely to be included) or Bogies (Working on it).

Cheers,

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Bowaters Models:- http://www.bowatersmodels.co.uk

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Turning a Second hand 'Superior' into Bowaters 'Superior'

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Post by angr607 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:11 pm

Well here's a little update, I've received the latest cuts for the new Wooden Bodied Pulp wagons along with the test cut for Coach 641 as built (which is the kit variant). All went together very well and was a great clean cut.

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Here's the 10 ton Flat Wagon kit. Ironically, it will be cheapest kit in the range because of the lack of headstocks (which seem to double the cost annoyingly).

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Here's the version of Coach 641 that's likely to be released. The 1st Picture shows the side with a door on and the 2nd shows the side without it. There are some changes that need to be made before release but the overall design is now proven which is all good from my perspective.

I've also got a website for it all which can be found here:- http://bowatersmodels.x10host.com/

It also shows what I'm hoping to make available at first plus there's a fair bit that's sitting on my ideas list that may make an appearence as well.....

Cheers,

Jon
Bowaters Models:- http://www.bowatersmodels.co.uk

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Turning a Second hand 'Superior' into Bowaters 'Superior'

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Post by SpudUk » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:43 am

Watching with interest!
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Post by angr607 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:02 am

After some more development work, I've been able to finish off a small number of other wagons. I'm happy with them and as such I'm aiming to get the majority of them ready for release around the end of March/Beginning of April. I'm planning to get the various kits produced in mixed batches of about 5 kits with a maximum wait of about 6 weeks. I've also been able to finalize the costs involved.

The Flat Wagon - £30
The Pulp Wagons (all Varients) - £60
The Staff Coaches - £90

The first kits available should be the 4 Wooden Bodied wagons. Then hopefully followed by the 14 ton Butterley Wagon. I'm still sorting out a place where the kits will be orderable from but hopefully it won't be too long before that's all ready. Until then, if people definitely want to make sure any kits they want will be in the first batch, PM me on here and I'll be able to give more details.

The initial range covers the following variants:-

BMW-001 SKLR 14 Ton Butterley All Steel Wagon 
BMW-002 SKLR 10 Ton Bagnall Bogie Flat Wagon
BMW-003 SKLR 8 Ton Bagnall/Kerr Stuart Pulp Wagon
BMW-004 SKLR 4xx Series 10 Ton Bagnall/Kerr Stuart Bogie Flat Wagon
BMW-005 SKLR 5xx Series 10 Ton Bagnall/Kerr Stuart Bogie Flat Wagon
BMC-001 SKLR Staff Coach No.641
BMC-002 SKLR Staff Coach No.657/658
BMC-003 SKLR Staff Coach No.659/660

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BMW-001

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BMW-002

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BMW-003

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BMW-004 (BMW-005 is virtually Identical bar detail differences)

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BMC-001

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BMC-002 (BMC-003 is virtually identical with the doors being located at the opposite ends of the coach)

Any questions, please ask :)

Cheers,

Jon
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Post by angr607 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:59 pm

After some interesting discussions, I'm pleased to announce that the entire range of Bowaters Models kits will be available to order from both our own website and though the well known 16mm etched nameplate providers 'Narrow Planet'.

At the moment, its planned the Earlier Pulp wagons will be available first followed by the 14 Ton all steel variants. There's been a number of faults brought to my attention with regards to the coaches so there will be a short wait while they are sorted out accordingly

Cheers,

Jon
Bowaters Models:- http://www.bowatersmodels.co.uk

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Rebuilding the Railway!
Turning a Second hand 'Superior' into Bowaters 'Superior'

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Post by angr607 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:37 pm

Gents, after some further tweaking I'm pleased to announce that the first items in the Bowaters Model Range has now been released on our website. The following kits have been released with paypal payment now available:-

BMW-002 SKLR 10 Ton Bagnall Flat Wagon
BMW-003 SKLR 8 Ton Bagnall/Kerr Stuart Pulp Wagon
BMW-004 SKLR 10 Ton Kerr Stuart 4xx Series Pulp Wagon
BMW-005 SKLR 10 Ton Bagnall 5xx Series Pulp Wagon
It is hoped that the remaining Pulp wagon will be released within the next couple of months.

The website is available here:- www.bowatersmodels.co.uk

Cheers,

Jon
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Rebuilding the Railway!
Turning a Second hand 'Superior' into Bowaters 'Superior'

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New Releases

Post by angr607 » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:57 pm

Latest from Bowaters Models:-

Brand new today, we’ve released our 3 kits which cover the original Staff Coaches from the former Bowaters Paper Railway. These now see active use on the SKLR today in passenger service. We’ve covered all 3 different designs which are as follows:-

BMC-001 Staff Coach No.641
BMC-002 Staff Coach No.657/658
BMC-003 Staff Coach No.659/660

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BMC-001 Bowaters Paper Railway Staff Coach No.641

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BMC-003 Bowaters Paper Railway Staff Coach No.659/660

All 3 are available with options for 3D printed Headstocks and Wooden Headstocks from today (11/06/15) from both ourselves and our friends at Narrow Planet. The images above show two of the prototypes which are different to the production kits. To have a look for yourself, go to:- http://www.bowatersmodels.co.uk/sklrstaffcoaches/

We've also updated the website to show the full list of our 16mm Bowaters Themed Loco sets which have been produced exclusively for us by Narrow Planet. Initially, there are sets for the Locomotives 'Premier', 'Leader', 'Excelsior' (see the below image) and 'Superior' available from stock with other Bowaters Engines available on request.

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NPBW-1603 Kerr Stuart 'Excelsior' shown on a Accucraft Excelsior

Cheers,

Jon
Bowaters Models:- http://www.bowatersmodels.co.uk

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Rebuilding the Railway!
Turning a Second hand 'Superior' into Bowaters 'Superior'

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Post by SpudUk » Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:23 pm

Any progress on the Chattenden and Upnor coaches?
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Post by angr607 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:48 pm

SpudUk:111756 wrote:Any progress on the Chattenden and Upnor coaches?
Hi,

They're still in the works. They're complete at a CAD level but are awaiting a test cut and assembly. I'm aiming to get them released around the middle of the year.

Cheers,

Jon
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Turning a Second hand 'Superior' into Bowaters 'Superior'

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Post by angr607 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:25 pm

Coming during 2017!

Bowaters Models are pleased to announce that we're working on a range of Ffestiniog Railways Coaches. The initial range will cover the following coaches:-

FR 'Barn' Observation Coach No.102
FR 'Barn' All 3rd Coach No.105
FR 'Carnforth' Composite Coach No.112
FR 'Carnforth' Composite Coach No.113
FR 'Carnforth' 3rd Class/Buffet Coach No.114

Details are still being fleshed out and pricing is unconfirmed. The current plan is they will use bogies that can be built as either 32mm or 45mm. The minimum radius is looking at being 5-6ft although that may change when I have a prototype to test which should be with me in a few weeks.

The kits will follow the Bowaters Models principle of being easy to assemble. The recommended couplings will be the superb Accucraft Chopper couplings, the same as the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Railway Stock.

We're aiming to have the first prototype (possibly Prototypes depending on how long it takes to receive the first cuts) with us at Narrow Gauge South at Sparsholt in Winchester this April.

Cheers,

Jon
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Turning a Second hand 'Superior' into Bowaters 'Superior'

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Post by angr607 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:51 am

Just a quick message to say we are still alive and things are progressing. We're looking at Prototyping the SKLR Chattenden and Upnor Coaches shortly along with the first of our FR Coaches. Design work is complete on the majority of our upcoming products (except one which is still giving us headaches). See our website for more information!

www.bowatersmodels.co.uk

Cheers,

Jon

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Re: Bowaters Models - 16mm Rolling Stock Kits

Post by angr607 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:34 pm

Well, as anyone who went to Peterborough will now, we released a couple of kits and we're now taking orders for the others. So to update you on our current projects, here's a little post.

Ffestiniog Railway Coaches

The 5 FR Coaches are all progressing well. We're now in a position to start accepting orders for all 5 variants. We've formally released the first two with approximate release dates for the others.

BMF-001 Ffestiniog Railway Coach No.102 - Approximate Release Date End of August/Early September
BMF-002 Ffestiniog Railway Coach No.105 - Approximate Release Date End of May/Early June
BMF-003 Ffestiniog Railway Coach No.112 - Released
BMF-004 Ffestiniog Railway Coach No.114 - Released
BMF-005 Ffestiniog Railway Coach No.105 with Early sides - Approximate Release Date End of October/Early November

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Ffestiniog Railway Coaches 112 and 114. First images of Coach 105 are expected tail end of this week.

Chattenden and Upnor Coaches

The 3 C&U Coaches are all at the same stage they were at a few months ago. The first two are drawn up and awaiting checking before sending off for Prototypes. This is dependent on time/finances but we're hoping they'll surface the last quarter of this year.

BMU-001 Chattenden and Upnor Railway Coach 196/199 - Designed in 2D, awaiting prototyping
BMU-002 Chattenden and Upnor Railway Coach 200 - Designed in 2D, awaiting prototyping
BMu-003 Chattenden and Upnor Railway Coach 204 - Research underway

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Screenshot out of our CAD software showing 196's side pieces

Bowaters

Our range of Bowaters has stayed fairly consistent throughout the year although we are planning some additions over time. Mainly adding a third Preservation Era coach to the range along with a Pulp wagon Coal Conversion. Both projects are progressing well with research being undertaken on both at the present time. We're also working on our own Locomotive kit appropiately based on the Bowaters Battery Electric 'The Tank'. Its being sized around a IP Engineering chassis at first and we might explore our own at a later date.

BME-001 Bowaters Paper Railway 'The Tank' - 2D Design work in progress
BMC-004 SKLR Preservation Coach 626/633 as built - Released
BMC-005 SKLR Preservation Coach 626 as running today - Research in progress
BMC-006 SKLR Covered Coach 641 as running today - Released
BMW-006 Bowaters Paper Railway 20 Ton Bagnall Coal Wagon - Research in progress

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One of our current Bowaters range

Sandy River and Rangley Lakes

At the moment, this is a project that's very much a wait and see. We might progress with this one, we might not. The plan is to cover the 4 ex-Phillips and Rangeley Coaches built with the Domed Roofs with potenially others to follow later. We're still doing our research into these at the moment as well as working out the potenial demand. These will be long coaches (at 46 scale feet (736mm)) although they should look good with the Sandy River and Rangeley Lakes engines from both LGB and Roundhouse. We are aware of the upcoming 7/8ths scale Sandy River Forney from Accucraft however we are not planning to produce any kits to run with the engine just yet. If you are interested in either a 16mm version or a potenial 7/8ths scale (Warning, these kits will be absolutely massive at over 1m long each in 7/8ths), please get in touch!

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Image of one of the prototype coaches preserved today in Maine. Image from wikipedia:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_Nar ... oad_Museum

Shows

We've just come back from our first Peterborough and loved every second of it. We're hopefully looking into coming back next year alongside Narrow Planet once again although this will be commitment/diaries depending. We've only got one other show this year which is ExpoNG in October down in Kent. Once that show is out of the way, we're looking at our 2018 diary and starting to pencil one or two shows in already of which Peterborough is one of them.

To view our range, please visit our website at www.bowatersmodels.co.uk or e-mail us at info@bowatersmodels.co.uk if you have any questions.

Jon, Bowaters Models
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