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RWLR bogie flat wagons

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:08 pm

Santa brought me a pair of bogies for Christmas and as I wanted to building something quick I decided on a flat wagon:

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My line is small with some tight curves so it is more of a 'squat' bogie wagon only measuring 250mm long.

It might develop into something more complex, however, for now I just want to get it running on my line as soon as possible.

The colour of the wood will look similar to my smaller flat wagon shown in the pictures.

This is my first true scratch build where I have not adapted a kit. I can see myself building more bogie wagons as they are much faster and easier to build then four wheeled stock for me.

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Post by Gremlin » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:15 pm

Nice bit of planking going on there and the view out your workshop window look pretty much the same as mine, horrible.

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Post by KjellAn » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:27 pm

Hello Tom

Thanks for your pics of your nice boggiwagon. Then we are more who likes to scratchbuild our wagons. Here is mine - just before entering the paintshop ...

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Post by laalratty » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:54 pm

Interesting, thanks for the pics I was thinking of making myself a couple of bogie flat wagons. I have a couple of cylinders of wire which I'm hoping could be painted up to look like rolls of cable
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Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:21 pm

laalratty:94748 wrote:I have a couple of cylinders of wire which I'm hoping could be painted up to look like rolls of cable
Good idea!

I stuck two layers of lollipop sticks horizontally then vertically and then cut/filed a circle:

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Hopefully aiming to build something like this:

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Bit crude but cost nought...

The weather has been complete crap here in Kent David as you know, bring on Spring!

Kjell, could you tell me please where you bought or how you made the hoop rings on your wagon.  Looks great :)

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Post by KjellAn » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:30 pm

tom_tom_go:94813 wrote:Kjell, could you tell me please where you bought or how you made the hoop rings on your wagon.  Looks great :)
Some times it is worth to go shopping with the mrs. ;)
Hobbyshops for ladies has a lot of small items for tailoring, knitting, paperclip and things for making earrings and jewellery. I think Panduro Hobby will be a good place to look.
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Post by LnBmad » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:18 pm

You want split pins and jump rings for making jewellery to add your details tom ;)

Looks a great model so far! What's the weight like with it being a flat?
If it can be made full scale it can be made 16mm

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Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:48 pm

Thanks Kjell and Matt, will have a look around town an on flee bay.

Weight wise the bogies are white metal with metal wheels, however, I will be adding extra weight underneath so that they can run without a load if required although I do like my locos to work hard so tend to weight wagons down :twisted:

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Post by LnBmad » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:58 pm

Hobby craft certainly have them bud
If it can be made full scale it can be made 16mm

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Post by tom_tom_go » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:22 pm

So nearly a year on and it is still not finished!

Santa this year bought me a nice Swift Sixteen tank to put on top:

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Post by Joe » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:34 pm

Very nice, you could add some side supports and make it into a log wagon if you got bored with that
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Post by andymctractor » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:53 pm

tom_tom_go:94813 wrote:I stuck two layers of lollipop sticks horizontally then vertically and then cut/filed a circle:
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Hopefully aiming to build something like this:
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I had similar fun with coffee stirrers but mounted the cable reel on a bogie wagon.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:54 pm

Dug this one out to finish.

Decided not to go with the tanker idea and instead have raised deck so that the coupling height is bang on with the rest of my stock. The bogies can rotate a full 360 degrees so tights points are no longer a problem.

Couplings are now completed and painted:

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I don't have any jump rings so made a test one out of electrical wire, is it too big though? (currently about 10mm in width)

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Post by merlin2 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:34 pm

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This is a bogie flat/bolster that I built several years ago. The bolsters are wood and are removable; being held in place by 2 spigots on the bottom of each bolster which locate into sockets in the wagon bed. (the bolsters are even interchangeable!). Similarly the stakes are also removable and can be inserted into flush square sockets in the bolsters.
The lashing rings are the aforementioned jewellery jump-rings and small split pins.
The general construction is of Plastruct around a bed of 6mm x 12mm strip wood, and the hand brake mechanism and truss rods are built up from brass strip, tube and rod.
The bogies came from 'stock'; haven't a clue who's they are or how I came by them, I've had them for years, but they are plastic moldings and are for 45mm gauge wheel-sets, although I seem to remember that they may have had Hornby 00 type coupling fitted originally.

The Playmobil coach in the background was in original condition at the time, but has since had a repaint, end doors, glazing and brass handrails fitted like the one in front of it.

The photo below shows it without a load coupled to a PM chassis/scratch built body brake van . The push-pull set is in the background.

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Post by LNR » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:16 pm

Hi Tom, don't know if this is any help, might be an easier form to model.
Log wagons I modeled mine on had this sort of bolster with a large "D" ring in the bolster end and round tapered stakes.
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Easy to remove as well, two fastenings up from underneath.

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Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:30 pm

Thanks LNR they look great and I will have a go fitting my wagon out with that design 8)

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Re: RWLR bogie flat wagons

Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:27 pm

This flat wagon has been hanging around the works for quite a while so started to try and make it into something:

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It was bought off eBay as a job lot and was originally stuck to a plastic O gauge coach chassis which did not look right to my eyes as the wheels and bogie were out of scale for the size of the wagon. The planking I added using lollipop sticks then weathered.

I have some G scale bogies that I butchered ages ago to fit 32mm track so I removed the O gauge chassis and then cut off the bogie mounts and bolted these back on:

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I made bushes from cutting lengths off a soldering iron tip:

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Bit of a bodge I know but it's my bitsa wagon on the cheap so not my finest work!

Testing bogie in place, rotates easily and even rocks a bit so should run smoothly:

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Outside to see if it runs freely which it does:

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The bracing I have added is from a G scale coach with rivet detail.

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Re: RWLR bogie flat wagons

Post by RylstonLight » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:04 pm

The flat wagon is nice, but I love the buffer stop. Redolent of an impoverished company that presses anything half-way suitable into service. Excellent or though the erstwhile Mr Isle might have had a different opinion.
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Re: RWLR bogie flat wagons

Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:25 pm

The steel billets started life as wagon loads but I then found other uses for them :mrgreen:

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Re: RWLR bogie flat wagons

Post by LNR » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:17 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:27 pm I made bushes from cutting lengths off a soldering iron tip:
That's a bit extravagant isn't it :shock:
A nice and very serviceable wagon, Tom.
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