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Small layout project

Post by Bergerac » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:44 pm

Hello everyone,
thanks for adding me as a new member of this great community. I don't have a garden railway and probably never will. My two dogs will never allow me to do that because it's definitely their garden. But I'm planning to build a very small (2" x 4") 16mm gauge indoor layout. Am I crazy ? Maybe a little bit... :lol:
I found this idea right here:
https://www.nationalgardenrailwayshow.o ... le-layout/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI07WgIMNbk
Many thanks in advance for all your comments and advices.
Am I crazy ? Maybe a little bit... :mrgreen:

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Re: Small layout project

Post by BorisSpencer » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:13 pm

You'll also find the following interesting: http://mdlr.co.uk/

Brian Dominic's two table top layouts.

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Re: Small layout project

Post by Bergerac » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:04 pm

Thanks.
Am I crazy ? Maybe a little bit... :mrgreen:

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Re: Small layout project

Post by DonW » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:57 pm

John Rogers of Bristol has built a very small raised layout for use in the garden. I can remeber whether it was in Garden Rail or SMT (Sixteen Mill Today the Association mag).
I haven't seen Brian for some time and was unaware of Slugs Crossing. I see the rat is still around.

The first thing is to decide is what track you are going to use. If you want an oval of track the radius of the curved sections will determine the minimum width of baseboard required If it is 12 inch radius you will probably need a board at least 2ft 3 inch wide because the radius is usually measured mid gauge. Of course if you are willing to build your own you can fit it on 2ft. It is not hard to build track especially if you use lighter rail like the code 100 Brian mentions. BTW I would suggest 32mm gauge will be more suited to such tight curves than 45mm.

I hope you give it a go

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Re: Small layout project

Post by idlemarvel » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:03 pm

Not crazy at all. If you want some ideas for "micro layouts" then this will be useful.
http://www.carendt.com/category/small-layout-scrapbook
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currently building the 5" gauge Circle Line

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Re: Small layout project

Post by Bergerac » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:22 pm

DonW wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:57 pm
I haven't seen Brian for some time and was unaware of Slugs Crossing. I see the rat is still around.
. Got it ! http://mdlr.co.uk/sc.html
DonW wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:57 pm
The first thing is to decide is what track you are going to use. If you want an oval of track the radius of the curved sections will determine the minimum width of baseboard required If it is 12 inch radius you will probably need a board at least 2ft 3 inch wide because the radius is usually measured mid gauge. Of course if you are willing to build your own you can fit it on 2ft. It is not hard to build track especially if you use lighter rail like the code 100 Brian mentions. BTW I would suggest 32mm gauge will be more suited to such tight curves than 45mm.
I haven't decided yet if I'll use 32mm or 16.5mm track. The baseboard is already built (67cm x 127cm). I made it for another project.
Am I crazy ? Maybe a little bit... :mrgreen:

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Re: Small layout project

Post by Bergerac » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:23 pm

idlemarvel wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:03 pm
Not crazy at all. If you want some ideas for "micro layouts" then this will be useful.http://www.carendt.com/category/small-layout-scrapbook
Thanks for the link.
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Re: Small layout project

Post by gregh » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:15 am

You might like to look at my topic. I have built nothing yet - still in dreaming phase like you.

https://gardenrails.org/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=12349
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The Sandstone & Termite's website: http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/satr/satr.htm

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Re: Small layout project

Post by Bergerac » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:58 am

Thanks for the link. Very interesting. I'll follow your work with interest.
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Re: Small layout project

Post by Bergerac » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:07 am

IP Engineering build its own wooden 32mm track. What do you think about it for indoor use ?

https://www.ipenginnering.com/product-p ... track-pack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raMtt3k ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Small layout project

Post by DonW » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:32 pm

Assuming it uses a thin wooden strip for the rail I would imagine it should be ok for lightweight stock powered by batteries. Personally I would probably make my own track. The other possibility is whether the IP track could be used but using 00 code 100 rail either spiked down or soldered to brass tacks or screws. This is because I couldn't resist running a live steamer round the track. On the size of board you are planning to use the trains will be pretty short so there shouldn't be too much drag and speeds would be low. There are no points shown on their website.
Brian Dominic is on here as MDLR if you could contact him either on here or through his website he may be better able to advise on the IP track as he did try some.

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Re: Small layout project

Post by BorisSpencer » Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:24 pm

Bergerac wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:07 am
IP Engineering build its own wooden 32mm track. What do you think about it for indoor use ?

https://www.ipenginnering.com/product-p ... track-pack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raMtt3k ... e=youtu.be
I bought a circle of that from the Peterborough show a couple of years ago.
Rubbish (just my opinion).

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Re: Small layout project

Post by Bergerac » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:39 pm

BorisSpencer wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:24 pm
I bought a circle of that from the Peterborough show a couple of years ago.
Rubbish (just my opinion).
Copy that ! Loud and clear. I'll use real track. I hope the IP Engineering rolling stock is better than the track... :mrgreen:
Am I crazy ? Maybe a little bit... :mrgreen:

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Re: Small layout project

Post by Bergerac » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:14 pm

Because my baseboard is very small (67cm x 127cm), I need very tight curves (diameter: 580/600mm). How can I bend the Peco SM32 track without any issue ? Thanks.
Am I crazy ? Maybe a little bit... :mrgreen:

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Re: Small layout project

Post by BorisSpencer » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:34 pm

Have a look at Faller-E-Train track, assuming you're going 32mm.
Or

The old Hornby 2-rail tinplate might be worth a look, cheap as chips (ebay has loads of it). It has small radius curves and a variety of small radius points and diamond crossings. It wouldn't last five minutes outside before rusting away, but on a baseboard inside might well be worth some fettling.

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