Sand hopper

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Sand hopper

Post by ge_rik » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:56 pm

No, not one of those little insects which live under seaweed on the beach ......

It's all Philip's fault. On the brewery thread he asked what other industries I might include on the PLR and I thought about that unused siding which might possibly serve a sand quarry one day........

If so, I fancied some wooden hopper wagons like those on the Snailbeach Railway. Swift Sixteen do a lovely kit, but at £40 each and needing eight or nine I decided my piggy bank wouldn't stretch - and then I remembered I had a few HLW wagon chassis which Greg had sent me form Oz a while back ......

I bit of surgery with a razor saw, a few bits of plasticard, some brass strip and a few escutcheon pins and it's beginning to look the part.

Only eight more to go!
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The Snailbeach wagons were grey, but I fancy painting mine red oxide, just to contrast with all the other grey wagons on the line. Of course, I will have to bash them about a bit - from photos it looks like there was an infinite number of variations on the design and a fair bit of butchery and ad hoc repairs. Sounds like my sort of railway - I can cover up my incompetencies with authentic looking 'wear and tear'.

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by philipy » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:22 pm

Crumbs, you been taking speed-building lessons from Mr B??!!

Looking good though

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:31 pm

Hot on the heels of the brewery build and so soon after the suggestion from Philip, this wagon looks just right for Rik's new project. Very nicely done!
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Post by tom_tom_go » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:53 pm

They look good to me Rik as they are not made from perfectly accurate kit pieces as in reality rolling stock get's bashed about.

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by Andrew » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:27 am

Very nice! Working out all those angles must have been fun... Looking forward to seeing the project progress...

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Post by ge_rik » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:21 pm

Hopper number two now completed.

I've adjusted the dimensions on this one - I think (personally) it looks better proportioned. I've also changed my construction techniques slightly. I was struggling to get the strapping right with brass. I've used plastic for all the strapping on this one - and had a clever wheeze for the diagonal straps which hold the hopper to the base..... :? ;)
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This is the first one for comparison.
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I'm not too worried about there being differences in the wagons. From photos it looks like those on the Snailbeach were a bit varied in their design and I've got a couple of rakes of LGB tipplers which are very uniform, so this train should look a bit more interesting, particularly after I've weathered and distressed them a bit.

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by philipy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:28 pm

Yes I agree Rik, No2 does look better proportioned.

You mentioned a clever wheeze but then omitted to tell us what it is?

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Post by Peter Butler » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:02 pm

I like both of the wagons and the mis-match works well. It seems more appropriate in narrow gauge than it would in standard gauge where there would be more control over capacity. The wood-grain effect is very good too! You should put that method on your blog.
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Re: Sand hopper

Post by ge_rik » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:16 pm

philipy wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:28 pm
Yes I agree Rik, No2 does look better proportioned.
Thanks - though I do like a bit of variety
philipy wrote:
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You mentioned a clever wheeze but then omitted to tell us what it is?
I was hoping someone would ask ..... I felt that styrene ties would have been susceptible to damage which is why I used brass for No.1. However, my metal working skills are a bit ropey, so I wasn't too happy with the outcome. And beside, I wouldn't have had enough escutcheon pins for all the wagons. At about 3.00am, I had a bright idea (well I thought so)! Cable ties!! They're designed to be flexible and strong. And also, if ever I needed to separate the body from the chassis, I could just snip through them and then replace them.

I carefully cut the clamping bit so there was enough left to stop the tie from pulling through - and there was enough left of the ratchety clamp thing to thread on underneath.
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Voila!

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by ge_rik » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:23 pm

Peter Butler wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:02 pm
...... The wood-grain effect is very good too! You should put that method on your blog.
In which case I will have to credit you with its invention - scraping the plastic with the blade of a razor saw... It's amazing how effective it is. Thanks.

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by BorisSpencer » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:38 pm

ge_rik wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:16 pm
I was hoping someone would ask ..... I felt that styrene ties would have been susceptible to damage which is why I used brass for No.1. However, my metal working skills are a bit ropey, so I wasn't too happy with the outcome. And beside, I wouldn't have had enough escutcheon pins for all the wagons. At about 3.00am, I had a bright idea (well I thought so)! Cable ties!! They're designed to be flexible and strong. And also, if ever I needed to separate the body from the chassis, I could just snip through them and then replace them.

I carefully cut the clamping bit so there was enough left to stop the tie from pulling through - and there was enough left of the ratchety clamp thing to thread on underneath.

Voila!

Rik
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I may well steal this solution for mounting "sardine tin" tubs on to Binnie chassis.

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:54 pm

Rik, that's an excellent idea.

I can also spend nights constantly thinking about a problem to resolve so you are not alone!

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by -steves- » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:57 pm

Really nice looking and a very smart idea to tie them down, sweet :D
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Re: Sand hopper

Post by philipy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:18 pm

tom_tom_go wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:54 pm
I can also spend nights constantly thinking about a problem to resolve so you are not alone!
I think we all do that. :)

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Re: Sand hopper

Post by ge_rik » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:16 pm

Andrew wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:27 am
Very nice! Working out all those angles must have been fun... Looking forward to seeing the project progress...

Cheers,

Andrew.
Hi Andrew
Yes, I think I'm closer with the second wagon than the first. :oops:

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