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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by mymodeltrain » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:34 pm

ge_rik wrote: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:08 pm More or less finished the landscaping and re-ballasting of the station area so here are a few pix of the sawmill and gantry crane in their natural setting.

A view from the end of the sawmill sidings.
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The HGLW loco seems quite at home pottering around the sidings moving wagons under the gantry as needed.
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View from the head of the sidings.
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Moving in a bit closer. I need a few more stacks of sawn timber and a fair bit more clutter to finish off the scene.
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The boilerhouse for the mill engine will eventually be placed in the bottom left of this pic.
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Am I looking at a real scene ? can't distinguish anymore.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by pandsrowe » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:03 am

I can't seem to find any suitable words to express my admiration for this whole project, it's just sooooooo.....
On a more mundane note, what are you using for the ground surface finish in these shots? Again it looks so real and seems to be a perfect scale match, just like the real thing.
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Post by ge_rik » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:22 am

pandsrowe wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:03 am .... what are you using for the ground surface finish in these shots? Again it looks so real and seems to be a perfect scale match, just like the real thing.
Thanks Phil

Basically:
1. I use concrete to bring the 'ground' up to sleeper height (or near rail height in the sidings)
2. Let that set (a week at least)
3. Dry-brush a mix of coarse sand, fine chicken grit, sifted potting grit, sifted soil and cement over the area
4. Water with a fine rose
5. Dribble SBR over everything (thanks to @Peter_Butler for that tip)
6. Leave to dry (a couple of days)
7. Daub watered-down cement dye over it all (thanks to @GregH for that idea) - I use black and brown separately and blend them as I go
I am constantly scanning the bagged sand and grit areas of local garden centres for 'interesting' concoctions - the RHA coarse sand is my latest discovery. I also sprinkle crushed coal in areas where it might be found - eg loco coaling areas, sidings where coal is unloaded. It's a bit like painting a canvas, except a bit grittier.

There's a bit more information about my technique here - https://riksrailway.blogspot.com/2015/0 ... crete.html - though I've developed it a bit more since I wrote that.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by gregh » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:14 am

Looks really perfect in situ. It will generate a lot of traffic for the line.
I hope there's a big forest somewhere. Lucky it's the 1930s so no Greenies to complain about logging.
I like the way you let your sidings 'splay' out. Too many of mine (and others) are always in parallel. Yours give a much better look.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:40 pm

Rik this is brilliant and far from anything I will ever achieve as I would of lost interest and moved onto something else. Using real wood for structures outside makes all difference.

I feel like an bottom saying this though but those plastic logs are the only negative for me as they look like they belong in a Playmobil scene.

Have you got a local wood you can go and grab some dead wood from the ground and cut up? You can then scatter the sawdust around the timber yard.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by ge_rik » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:22 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:40 pm I feel like an bottom saying this though but those plastic logs are the only negative for me as they look like they belong in a Playmobil scene.

Have you got a local wood you can go and grab some dead wood from the ground and cut up? You can then scatter the sawdust around the timber yard.
Hi Tom
I'd like to improve their appearance, sure. Their advantage is they are lightweight for wagon loads and weatherproof. I have tried various branches and twigs, but I find that if I leave them outside for a couple of months, the bark falls off and they end up looking,....... well, like twigs. I could probably use a couple on the loading platform for the saw carriage (underneath the gantry) as I take that inside when not in use, but I would like to have some permanent stacks of logs left outside.

If anyone knows of branches which have bark which is weatherproof, the please let me know. I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by laalratty » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:36 pm

ge_rik wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:22 pm

If anyone knows of branches which have bark which is weatherproof, the please let me know. I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem.

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I've got a stack of logs made from offcuts of various dwarf conifers, and they seem to have kept their bark over the course of nearly 18 months.
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Post by ge_rik » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:32 pm

laalratty wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:36 pm I've got a stack of logs made from offcuts of various dwarf conifers, and they seem to have kept their bark over the course of nearly 18 months.
That's useful to know. Annoyingly, I had a couple of rogue leylandii removed from the garden a month or so ago and they took all the brushwood away with them. Looks like I may have to prune some of my better behaved conifers.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by laalratty » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:51 pm

Some of mine seem to excel at growing too big by themselves, to the stage where I am considering taking them out entirely, but it has produced quite a few scale logs whilst I try and keep them in check.
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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by FWLR » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:48 am

Rik…..how on earth are we going to do anything near your build… :D :D

Once again the sawmill looks fantastic…Can I have it please…… :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by gregh » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:58 am

Will you have to alter your computer program that allocates wagons now that you have 2 new industries at sawmill and watermill?
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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by ge_rik » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:54 am

gregh wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:58 am Will you have to alter your computer program that allocates wagons now that you have 2 new industries at sawmill and watermill?
Good question, Greg and easily answered. Each wagon is assigned destinations and so I can adjust which wagons go to Peckforton or to the mill siding quite readily - just change a couple of numbers on each wagon 'card'. One day, I will add a siding to a sandpit and quarry (the area has had both in the past). Again, this will be an easy adjustment - just adding another location 'card' and then assign wagons to the new destination.

For those who have no idea what we're talking about - here's a link to info about my freight handling computer program - https://riksrailway.blogspot.com/2015/0 ... puter.html

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by markoteal » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:59 am

I love that system you have Rik - adds a real sense of realism to the railway and its operation - I need to add more sidings to my line to get anywhere near - I do have a random element in my goods trains as to which wagon I remove from the consist at the other end of the line for the goods shed - as its that simple, I just use a dice but I would love to move to a more realistic scenario like you use
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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by philipy » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:06 pm

ge_rik wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:54 am

One day, I will add a siding to a sandpit and quarry (the area has had both in the past).
Aren't you in 'salt mine land' as well?? ;)
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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by ge_rik » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:19 pm

philipy wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:06 pm
Aren't you in 'salt mine land' as well?? ;)
Now, there's a thought! :shock: :?

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:29 pm

ge_rik wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:19 pm
philipy wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:06 pm
Aren't you in 'salt mine land' as well?? ;)
Now, there's a thought! :shock: :?

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by IanC » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:28 pm

Peter Butler wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:29 pm
ge_rik wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:19 pm
philipy wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:06 pm
Aren't you in 'salt mine land' as well?? ;)
Now, there's a thought! :shock: :?

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How about a vinegar lake too, then you can supply all of the local chippies? Just imagine the railway traffic generated by such an enterprise!
Is that to go on the wood chips from the sawmill :?:

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:37 pm

IanC wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:28 pm
Peter Butler wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:29 pm
ge_rik wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:19 pm
Now, there's a thought! :shock: :?

Rik
How about a vinegar lake too, then you can supply all of the local chippies? Just imagine the railway traffic generated by such an enterprise!
Is that to go on the wood chips from the sawmill :?:

I'll get my coat.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by FWLR » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:30 am

I am Rik, I still want your Sawmill…….. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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