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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by markoteal » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:37 am

Great work - loving the little added details

and..............


You've got a 50p shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want one
Where did I put that uncoupler?

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by steamer68 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:42 am

Rik a superb looking sawmill your modelling is brilliant. :thumbright:
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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by FWLR » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:56 pm

No photos any more of your last post now showing on my 💻, but 👌 on iPad and iPhone....weird :scratch:

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by FWLR » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:58 pm

Also now lost the forum on it too :( :(

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Post by ge_rik » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:27 pm

markoteal wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:37 am You've got a 50p shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want one
It's in the middle of nowhere a few miles from here.
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They started off over 20 years ago with a small garden centre and billed themselves as the largest 50p shop in the world - which was (and maybe still is) probably true. They're still going with a vast range of 50p items but they also now have a £1.00 aisle and even a £2 aisle. Very handy when I need something with wheels which I can butcher into something else.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by FWLR » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:51 pm

I visit the pound shop at least once a week… :thumbright:

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by FWLR » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:30 am

Hi Rik

Seen this on garden railway centres, any ideas…

https://www.gardenrailwaycentres.info/s ... idder.html

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Post by ge_rik » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:26 pm

FWLR wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:30 am Hi Rik

Seen this on garden railway centres, any ideas…

https://www.gardenrailwaycentres.info/s ... idder.html
Thanks Rod
I think this sort of thing was used in the field (or should I say forest) for hauling logs. Nice looking model though.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by GTB » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:53 pm

FWLR wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:30 am Seen this on garden railway centres, any ideas…
It's a Bachmann model of a North American style twin drum log hauler.

They were basically a specialised winch and some Aust. and NZ timber companies used something similar for snigging sawlogs out of the cutting area in the bush to the loading point on the timber tram.

When an area was cut out, the winch would be loaded precariously on log bogies and moved to the next site.

On the twin drum type, the larger drum was used with a heavy cable to haul in the logs and the smaller one was used with a messenger cable to haul the main cable back out for the next log. They disappeared after WW2, replaced by war surplus bulldozers and trucks.

I'm not that familiar with UK forestry practice, but by the time period of Rik's railway, I'd imagine most timber was imported into the UK in large baulks from Scandinavia and sawn down to size in the sort of mill Rik is modelling.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by IanC » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:28 pm

I have no idea about forestery practice for any country. However I do recognise superb modelling and whether or not Rik's sawmill is accurate or not it's a brilliant model.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by FWLR » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:34 pm

So right there Ian, too much sometimes pondering about if it is correct. But I think the members are just trying to find out more about it.

And yes Rik’s models are fantastic, has are a lot of members builds. Just wish I was one of them :lol: :lol:

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Post by ge_rik » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:27 am

Not quite sure where this discussion is going but to clarify, my modelling philosophy is to make representations of things which would have been around in the 1930s. Because the timeframe and the hypothetical location for my railway are quite specific, I find that I often have to bash existing models or scratchbuild to make stuff which is appropriate. My modelling skills, techniques and resources are fairly basic. In my blog I hope to show that anyone with a bit of nouse, a modicum of patience and a few basic tools can produce reasonably passable models. I also take pride in doing things on the cheap, by making use of readily accessible materials, recycled junk and low cost bits and pieces (eg from the 50p shop).

I inevitably have to make comprises. Sometimes, I can't find definitive or accurate information on items and practices relevant to the period. Sometimes, my levels of competence, knowledge or problem solving capabilities are not up to task in hand and so my models are not up to a standard which bears close scrutiny (particularly on camera). However, on summer evenings, as I sit back in my deckchair and half close my eyes, my imagination transports me back to a time before I was born as a train slowly chuffs past.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by FWLR » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:23 am

However, on summer evenings, as I sit back in my deckchair and half close my eyes, my imagination transports me back to a time before I was born as a train slowly chuffs past.

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My imagination is always in a distance Rik…so Anne keeps on telling me… :lol: :lol:

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Post by ge_rik » Mon May 21, 2018 2:30 pm

It's been a couple of months since I posted anything about progress on the sawmill - a few other things have got in the way - eg India, couplings, life, etc. However, I decided over the weekend that I needed to press on with it. Here's where I'm up to.

The interior is now more or less finished.
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The machinery is done. Including the horizontal mill engine which is a much-modified model of a beam engine (ex Airfix, I think) which I picked up at a sawpmeet for a fiver. OK, purists will throw up their hands in horror, but it gives the impression of a mill engine - which is what I am after.
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The headsaws are in place - various oddments from the local 50p shop pressed into service. Again, not a true representation of any specific prototype, just an interpretation drawn from various photos.
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There is a logic to the placement of the various bits of machinery, so that the flitches from the headsaw are then trimmed to width and length (haven't cut any fitches yet (ie lengths of timber with the bark still on one or two sides).
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The layshafts and pulleys have been completed (thanks to Philipy of this parish for the 3D printed pulley wheels). I think their layout would actually work - though I now realise that the final trimming table saw has been installed the wrong way round so the belt would interfere with the cutting process. A job for the future!
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All in all, I'm quite pleased with the outcome. When the roof goes on, you will only catch glimpses of the activity inside. I did wonder if everything was a bit cramped, but looking at photos of real sawmills, mine looks quite tidy and spacious by comparison.
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As with everything, there is more to be done. I'm currently working on the gantry crane for loading and unloading the wagons - and, of course, I need to build a boiler house for the mill engine.

All good fun!

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by Gralyn » Mon May 21, 2018 3:31 pm

This may be a strange question considering all the superb machinery you have modelled.
??? How do you keep the Sawdust in place. I cant even keep gravel ballast from spiriting
itself away.
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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by IanC » Mon May 21, 2018 4:29 pm

Rik,

I am not a purist. Nor do I know what a sawmill looks like, but it all looks superb. Well done.

Your attention to detail is commendable.

The finished sawmill, ancilliary buildings and fittings etc, will look fantastic.

I'd be happy if I could build models half as good as you have acheived.

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Post by ge_rik » Mon May 21, 2018 4:39 pm

Gralyn wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 3:31 pm This may be a strange question considering all the superb machinery you have modelled.
??? How do you keep the Sawdust in place. I cant even keep gravel ballast from spiriting
itself away.
Lashings of PVA

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Post by ge_rik » Mon May 21, 2018 4:42 pm

IanC wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 4:29 pm Rik,
I am not a purist. Nor do I know what a sawmill looks like, but it all looks superb. Well done.
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Thanks Ian
I certainly don't think it's skill on my part, just dogged persistence..... :?
There are some very highly skilled modellers on this forum whose models are far more accomplished. I like to think of myself as 'Everyman' - ie if I can do it, then anyone can.

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Re: Peckforton sawmill

Post by bazzer42 » Mon May 21, 2018 6:09 pm

That is a beautiful interior Rik, a superb bit of modelling. I couldn't tell a belt was fouling anything and the sawdust looks just right to my eyes, accumulating where you would expect it. The site I have for a mill may have to become a cutwood store as area is nowhere near big enough...the saw will have to be off stage.

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Post by philipy » Mon May 21, 2018 6:17 pm

That is phenominal Rik! Absolutely beautiful job, and I can't believe those are 'my' pulleys, you've worked them up so well. :shock:
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