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Re: Refreshment building

Post by LNR » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am

Many thanks for the information re the enamel signs Rik. I shall have to investigate the vinyl sheet. I figure you guys should be able to test weathering characteristics of an article far quicker than we can, given your weather conditions. The building is looking very good.
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
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PS have you managed to sort out your Nippies yet :shock: :shock:

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Re: Refreshment building

Post by ge_rik » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am

LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am Many thanks for the information re the enamel signs Rik. I shall have to investigate the vinyl sheet. I figure you guys should be able to test weathering characteristics of an article far quicker than we can, given your weather conditions. The building is looking very good.
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
Grant.
PS have you managed to sort out your Nippies yet :shock: :shock:
Thanks for the description of your approach to enamel signs. I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.
No, not thought about the Nippies, yet. I need to makes some tables and chairs and a kitchen for them to run between.

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Re: Refreshment building

Post by philipy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am

ge_rik wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am
LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
Grant.
I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.


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FWIW, I've used varnish soaked inkjet printed paper signs in several locations and they don't survive more than about 18 months before becoming unreadable. I redid them by laser printing on vinyl sheet and so far they look OK after about a year.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by philipy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:25 am

philipy wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am
ge_rik wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am
LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
Grant.
I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.


Rik
Guys,

FWIW, I've used varnish soaked inkjet printed paper signs in several locations and they don't survive more than about 18 months before becoming unreadable. I redid them by laser printing on vinyl sheet 'paper', and so far they look OK after about a year.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by LNR » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:00 am

Maybe it does depend on the weather, this sign has been hanging on the fence for 8 years now, and since looking at this pic. I see it is just starting to deteriorate at the top right.
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This one is more recent, been there for 4 1/2 years.
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The last one represents a paper sign that I figure would be replaced every so often in real life anyhow, it was Bushells Tea before this.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by ge_rik » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:54 am

It's been a while since an update on this project. The main reason being that I have been awaiting the delivery of the laser-cut filigree panel which goes above the door. That arrived last week and so I've installed it and finished off the roof (which is only temporarily fixed in place until I finish off the interior)
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More info on the build on my blog - https://riksrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... -room.html

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Re: Refreshment building

Post by Lonsdaler » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:56 am

That is sublime, Rik. Absolutely fantastic.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by Peter Butler » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:15 pm

Excellent work Rik, superb detailing and finish. Paper based signs will certainly have limited life expectancy but can be protected by first sticking to plastic card with double sided adhesive then wrapping with sticky-back plastic, in true Blue Peter style! As long as all edges and corners are well covered to keep moisture at bay they should last. I have some in use which have survived our wet 'Summer' this year.....
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A final coating on the reverse with impact adhesive will help seal the joins and bond to the structure.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by philipy » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:43 pm

Beautiful Rik, Well done. Can we see a shot of it in situ, please?

P.S... Love the "Nippy" :D
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:05 pm

I like how you have made the roof Rik and I might use that method as it's easier than using bake bean cans for buildings I bring in over the winter.

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Re: Refreshment building

Post by ge_rik » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:28 pm

Thanks for the feedback, chaps. Makes it all feel worthwhile.

Thanks, Peter, for the tip on signs. I'll see how long the vinyl lasts and then try your approach when they need replacing.

Philipy - I need to do some landscaping at the intended site before I can take an in-situ photo. I'd like to lay some Jigstones moulded cobbles beforehand - however, I need to cast them first - which I know will be at least a day's work as I have only one small mould and will need quite a few mouldings (probably do it in the garage, with the heater on and Radio 4 on in the background).

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Re: Refreshment building

Post by Soar Valley Light » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:08 pm

Hello Rik,

Very nice indeed, I love every aspect of it. It's great to see the progress.

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