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Post by ge_rik » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:32 am

11thHour wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:52 am Have found someone online who will laser-cut the cast iron filigree panel above the door - as with all my constructions, the panel is 'inspired' by the original

If you are adventurous & can live with the thickness, this may be a solution. Results look pretty good.

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PS great prototype & enjoying the modeling.
Thanks Tim. I did consider brass etching, but as the laser guy has already made me some platform seats with PLR monogram supports I thought I'd see if he was up for the challenge. He's working on it now.

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Post by markoteal » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:40 pm

Yes - I love it and the fact you can walk along virtually all the line spotting clues is great - as well as getting a bracing walk around the dunes and down the rye channel back to the links station makes it a favourite family walk with the dogs

I also crave a small Bagnell like Victoria and Camber -
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they look great and are very narrow gauge - but like you say, so small so that getting batteries into one would be a challenge - who knows as technology drives LiPo batteries smaller we may yet get the chance!

Looking at the pic, I do wonder if a RH Billy could be a good starting point - way beyond my skill level but would be interesting to know if anyone has ever tried
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Post by ge_rik » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:48 pm

markoteal wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:40 pm Yes - I love it and the fact you can walk along virtually all the line spotting clues is great - as well as getting a bracing walk around the dunes and down the rye channel back to the links station makes it a favourite family walk with the dogs

I also crave a small Bagnell like Victoria and Camber -
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they look great and are very narrow gauge - but like you say, so small so that getting batteries into one would be a challenge - who knows as technology drives LiPo batteries smaller we may yet get the chance!

Looking at the pic, I do wonder if a RH Billy could be a good starting point - way beyond my skill level but would be interesting to know if anyone has ever tried
I've not seen that pic of one of the Bagnalls. Even smaller than I remember.

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Post by markoteal » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:18 pm

Yes Camber was the smallest of the two loco - Victoria was bought to add a bit more umpf.

The pic which I found on the internet, is included on one of my fav books which helps fire my knowledge and enthusiasm of the line - cover the history, rolling stock & station diagrams - the full works

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Rye-Ca ... 1871980267

Well worth a nudge to someone close for any 16mm'ers Birthday or Christmas presents

Interestingly (and tantalisingly if you believe in miracles) both locos were sold to scrappers but there are no confirmed images of both locos being cut up - who knows, one may turn up in garage in Sussex or Kent one of these days - there is always hope! ;)
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Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:46 pm

Got a bit further with this. Now painted (but looking far too pristine for my railway so will be 'distressed' before too long). Awaiting delivery of the filigree panel to go above the door and need to add the nameboards and enamel signs.
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Post by philipy » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:40 pm

That refreshment Room is looking very 'tasty'. ( Sorry, couldn't resist that one.) :lol:
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Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:02 pm

philipy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:40 pm That refreshment Room is looking very 'tasty'. ( Sorry, couldn't resist that one.) :lol:
Forgiven - and thanks

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Post by LNR » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:42 am

Nice! waiting to see your approach to the enamel signs.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:33 am

Very convincing panelling there Rik, they actually look like wood.

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Post by Peter Butler » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:33 pm

Just re-visited this thread Rik and really impressed with the glazed door panels, how are the made and would they be waterproof?
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Post by ge_rik » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:27 am

tom_tom_go wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:33 am Very convincing panelling there Rik, they actually look like wood.
Thanks Tom, pinched the idea from Peter Butler - scribed with a razor saw.

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Post by ge_rik » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:31 am

Peter Butler wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:33 pm Just re-visited this thread Rik and really impressed with the glazed door panels, how are the made and would they be waterproof?
I hope they will be weather resistant, Peter. Drawn in PowerPoint, printed on to clear self adhesive film and then stuck to the inside of the glazing - so hopefully, should survive the elements. If not, takes five minutes to reprint.

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Post by ge_rik » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:59 pm

LNR wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:42 am Nice! waiting to see your approach to the enamel signs.
Grant.
The text-based signs were composed as Text Boxes in MS Word, printed on to self adhesive vinyl sheet, covered in clear sticky-backed plastic and either fixed directly to the boards or fixed to 0.5mm thick plasticard and glued on. The 'Lyons' and 'Wills' enamel signs were downloaded as images from the internet and their perspectives adjusted in Serif Draw Plus to make them square-on. They were then printed and mounted as above. Still awaiting delivery of the filigree panel and need to make the roof and the interior, but getting closer to finishing.

Incidentally, I downloaded the Wills sign from an auction site in Australia - looks like these signs got about a bit....
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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:31 pm

That is a stunning piece of work Rik, the building has character but you have captured the texture and feel of the material so well it all looks completely convincing.
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Post by philipy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:53 am

Amazing Rik, a beautiful piece of work.

I know you said at the start that it would have an interior "eventually", but with those large windows it really is crying out for one ( and some lighting?).
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Post by LNR » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am

Many thanks for the information re the enamel signs Rik. I shall have to investigate the vinyl sheet. I figure you guys should be able to test weathering characteristics of an article far quicker than we can, given your weather conditions. The building is looking very good.
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
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Post by ge_rik » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am

LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am Many thanks for the information re the enamel signs Rik. I shall have to investigate the vinyl sheet. I figure you guys should be able to test weathering characteristics of an article far quicker than we can, given your weather conditions. The building is looking very good.
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
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PS have you managed to sort out your Nippies yet :shock: :shock:
Thanks for the description of your approach to enamel signs. I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.
No, not thought about the Nippies, yet. I need to makes some tables and chairs and a kitchen for them to run between.

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Post by philipy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am

ge_rik wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am
LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
Grant.
I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.


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Guys,

FWIW, I've used varnish soaked inkjet printed paper signs in several locations and they don't survive more than about 18 months before becoming unreadable. I redid them by laser printing on vinyl sheet and so far they look OK after about a year.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by philipy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:25 am

philipy wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am
ge_rik wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am
LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
Grant.
I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.


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Guys,

FWIW, I've used varnish soaked inkjet printed paper signs in several locations and they don't survive more than about 18 months before becoming unreadable. I redid them by laser printing on vinyl sheet 'paper', and so far they look OK after about a year.
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Post by LNR » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:00 am

Maybe it does depend on the weather, this sign has been hanging on the fence for 8 years now, and since looking at this pic. I see it is just starting to deteriorate at the top right.
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This one is more recent, been there for 4 1/2 years.
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The last one represents a paper sign that I figure would be replaced every so often in real life anyhow, it was Bushells Tea before this.
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