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Beeston Market Station forecourt/backscenes

Post by ge_rik » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:15 pm

Hi Folks
I've been tidying up the forecourt to Beeston Market Station. A job which has been on to do list for some time.

A general view of the approach.
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The coal yard
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The cafe (difficult to hide the 'real' garden from some shots).
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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by Peter Butler » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:30 pm

Beautiful and believable scenes Rik, lovely details which could easily be taken from life.
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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by Soar Valley Light » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:19 pm

Hi Rik,

Very nice! As Peter says, you have to look twice to be sure it's not real.

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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:22 pm

The cafe looks very real to me.

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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by bazzer42 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:46 pm

Nice stuff Rik, that coalyard scene is a cracker. The layout of the station, cafe and yard look very realistic.

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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by ge_rik » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:46 am

Thanks folks
Quite relieved that job is now off the list. Trying to decide whether to make a backscene for this corner. What's the consensus on backscenes in the garden?

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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by bazzer42 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:24 am

Personally I think nature is the best backscene. There was a wheelbarrow in the rear of one picture but was only after several passes. I think train eyes are adept at seeing the railway and accompanying surroundings first and backdrop later. That said I limit the number of shots in my work shop area!

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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by IanC » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:55 am

bazzer42 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:24 am Personally I think nature is the best backscene. There was a wheelbarrow in the rear of one picture but was only after several passes. I think train eyes are adept at seeing the railway and accompanying surroundings first and backdrop later. That said I limit the number of shots in my work shop area!
I agree with you Bazzer. I hadn't spotted the wheelbarrow either. I had to go back and look for it.

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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by pandsrowe » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:11 am

I have used backscenes on my garden railway and whilst they look good and add to the realism of close up viewing and in photos, I find that they can be rather intrusive when looking at the garden as a whole. It's a clever artist that can combine a backscene with nature's growth, sadly I'm not a clever artist.
Coincidentally, I am at present trying in my mind to develope a station scene to complement my railway extension which is bordered on two sides by wooden fencing. Fairly easy to install all manner of railway infrastructure to make it look like railway but will look totally out of place in the garden setting, so somehow I have to come up with a balance. One idea I have been toying with, is a removable panel that has a railway type scene painted/superimposed on it that will satisfy my modelling needs and when that is removed and stored away, what remains will be more garden like.
When, (being the operative word) I have come up with a satisfactory solution, I will post my efforts on here.
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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by pandsrowe » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:51 am

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Just thought that this would give you a better idea of what I was talking about.
At the moment it does look a bit stark but my intention is to soften the lines of the fencing by growing climbing plants e.g. clematis and trachelspernum (spelling?) and along the front of the framework there will be plants in containers.
Sorry, I think that I might be hi jacking Rik's original post, I'll shut up.
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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by philipy » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:12 am

ge_rik wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:46 am Thanks folks
Quite relieved that job is now off the list. Trying to decide whether to make a backscene for this corner. What's the consensus on backscenes in the garden?

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The forecourt is nice, especially the refreshment room in its setting. I did notice the wheelbarrow but only because you said you couldn't hide the garden and I looked to see what you were talking about!

Personally I don't think a painted backscene is right in garden setting. Even in small scale layouts they only look right when viewed from a particular point. I like the use of low relief buildings to disguise whats behind. In this shot of mine, the buildings range from approx 15mm thick to about 50mm thick and are tall enough that the eye tends not to see the wooden shed wall above. The second picture is before the pub was added at the LH end and shows how obtrusive the wooden wall was
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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by Peter Butler » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:02 am

Difficult to advise on what is best option in this case. We don't know the layout of the garden or what else is surrounding the railway, or even the best access for Rik to operate his railway. Possibly the simplest solution is to move the wheelbarrow if that leaves an open view beyond the structures?
So now, having found a suitable place to store it, a new site might be required?
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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by bazzer42 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:24 am

Peter Butler wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:02 am
So now, having found a suitable place to store it, a new site might be required?
I agree with Peter, move the barrow and extend a siding to the wainwright's factory where carts are manufactured....using wood from the saw mill...

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Post by ge_rik » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:07 pm

pandsrowe wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:51 am ........ Sorry, I think that I might be hi jacking Rik's original post, I'll shut up.
Not at all, Phil. I posed the question and so am really interested in a range of responses. I think it's ok when you have a garden where it's possible to have natural backgrounds, but not everyone has this luxury. If, like you, your railway is up against a fence or a brick wall, then I'd say it's ok to make some sort of artificial background.

I might try experimenting more with photographic enhancements. I've had a go at some 'green screening' in one of my videos. I erected a couple of cheap blue tarpaulins in front of the house walls and conservatory behind my railway and then replaced them in my video editor with landscapes.

Here's what the background to the first two shots would have been .....
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And here's the video .....



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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by Peter Butler » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:17 pm

Wow Rik.... that is just amazing, without your prior notice I doubt I would have seen the landscape in the distance. I bet you can juggle too!
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Post by philipy » Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:28 am

Agree with Peter. Actually, even knowing what to look for I wasn't sure where it started and stopped.
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Post by gregh » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:44 am

ge_rik wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:46 am Thanks folks
Quite relieved that job is now off the list. Trying to decide whether to make a backscene for this corner. What's the consensus on backscenes in the garden?
Rik
I think there might be different reasons for wanting a backscene. I've always wanted to try them just for photography reasons. For those with nice gardens and plenty of good 'vistas' they may not see the need. But I have only a few view angles which don't have fences, sheds or houses in them. Consequently, I've been considering the printed banners offered by print shops, but not yet got around to ordering them. The hard part seems to be finding suitable colour pictures and I spend much time on the web searching.
But as a 'mockup' example, this is why I'd like to try them. Here's my Fibro Flat station against my house and a maybe backscene.
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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by ge_rik » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:15 am

gregh wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:44 am ...... Here's my Fibro Flat station against my house and a maybe backscene.
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Now that's what I call a backscene (Beeston Castle :) )

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Re: Beeston Market Station forecourt

Post by ge_rik » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:17 am

Peter Butler wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:17 pm ...... I bet you can juggle too!
Only for about 10 seconds - and only with non perishable items!

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Post by gregh » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:27 am

ge_rik wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:15 am Now that's what I call a backscene (Beeston Castle :) )
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