16mm and its relationship with other scales

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by Soar Valley Light » Wed May 02, 2018 7:14 pm

Very well put Ian. I couldn't agree more! :thumbleft:

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by IanC » Wed May 02, 2018 8:05 pm

Soar Valley Light wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 7:14 pm Very well put Ian. I couldn't agree more! :thumbleft:

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by FWLR » Thu May 03, 2018 7:06 am

I have said the very same thing when I was involved with the 2mm stuff. I used to go to shows with other forum members and quite a few of them wouldn’t entertain the bigger stuff, mainly OO, and wouldn’t be seen dead looking at some of the brilliant modelling that was achieved with them. The look of distain when ever I did, which was most of the time, was unreal.

I was looking at this and marvelling at the time and more importantly the skill that it took the two guys to build this, the drive, bogie and trailing wheels all moved in time when they slowed it down or sped up.. but the guy I went with just said, “That’s not N Gauge” I couldn’t believe my hears….

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It was like I had suddenly grown horns or something :reindeer:

We don’t have anything with horns… :toothy8: :toothy8:

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by IanC » Thu May 03, 2018 8:34 am

That Meccano locomotive is a work of art, I'd have stopped for a good look at it too. It's very impressive.

I've looked at allsorts at model railway shows, from 009n to gauge 1 and early steam to modern traction. Most of which I don't model or get involved with but I can learn or draw inspiration from most things. If there's nothing to interest me I might not linger for long, but if something gets my attention then regardless of scale, gauge or era then I'll stay much longer.

Sometimes I can only wonder at the skill in other people and aspire to improve my own work.

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by FWLR » Thu May 03, 2018 8:43 am

So do I, but unfortunately I will never achieve it…. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I forgot to mention that the two guys spent over 1000 hrs making it….I took over 3/4 qtrs of an hour admiring it…… :lol:

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by IanC » Thu May 03, 2018 8:45 am

That makes it even more impressive. Something I could never do and certainly worth admiring.

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by Tingewickmax » Thu May 03, 2018 11:04 am

One of the biggest problems with the larger scales, like 16 mm, is trying to convey the feel of their appeal in the garden environment in a show setting. Smaller scales can be built into compact, detailed and prototypical portable senic layouts that tell a story with reletive ease. If there were a way to create a landscaped layout at a show that portrayed the more "bucolic" nature of our part of the hobbby, where imagination might be seen as being at more of a premium, I'm sure more people would "get it".

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by IanC » Thu May 03, 2018 5:57 pm

Tingewickmax wrote: Thu May 03, 2018 11:04 am One of the biggest problems with the larger scales, like 16 mm, is trying to convey the feel of their appeal in the garden environment in a show setting. Smaller scales can be built into compact, detailed and prototypical portable senic layouts that tell a story with reletive ease. If there were a way to create a landscaped layout at a show that portrayed the more "bucolic" nature of our part of the hobbby, where imagination might be seen as being at more of a premium, I'm sure more people would "get it".
I agree. A couple of weeks ago I was at an exhibition in Liverpool where a team with a G scale LGB layout tried to do just that by laying artificial grass, garden gnomes and other garden features to portray a layout in the garden.

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by tom_tom_go » Thu May 03, 2018 6:07 pm

This is a good scenic layout that can match detailed smaller scale layouts:

https://www.youtube.com/user/stevehoward99

I find tail chasing layouts boring if I am honest which is why I have never bothered with the 16mm NGM show.

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Re: 16mm and its relationship with other scales

Post by FWLR » Sat May 05, 2018 10:24 am

That is a great shunting layout Tom :thumbright:

But the point for me of doing an indoor little show is to try and get more youngsters involved in the hobby mate. It was pointed out earlier in the thread that it is more of an “old mans” hobby, which I suppose it is, but can’t we try and get more younger people involved, meaning anyone younger than retired people or near retirement.

The local heritage steam line in Hesketh Bank do a brilliant job when they have their open days, which can run to 2 or 3 times a year, the young kids especially love to see the layout that is displayed by the Mersey & North West Group organiser’s.

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