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3 way point

Post by Maple » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:58 pm

Hi All

I am progressing with my line nicely and have reached the station/yard area, considering a 3 way point perhaps even a stub one?

Has anyone got any good pics/diagrams/advice

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Post by Big Jim » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:21 pm

Try Marcway, they seem to specialise in trackwork of all gauges so might be able to help.

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Post by Soar Valley Light » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:12 pm

Hi Ben,

Jim's suggestion is a good one. I've no doubt you are looking for a full sized drawing and Marcway is a good source. It's not too difficult to draw your own (although it takes time!) particularly if you are computer literate (I'm not!) or have a set of railway curves (I have!). However, when it comes to more complex things like tandems and slips then it's generally easier to get someone to do it for you!

Never let pointwork of any sort daunt you, it's only basic geometry and trigonometry.

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Post by Maple » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:25 pm

thanks guys, i already make my own point work, think im going for a home design 3 way stub, as on closer inspection i need 2 different radius (1 each side)

This also mean my large radius compass is going to need a clean

I will put up some pictures in due time
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Post by Soar Valley Light » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:22 pm

Well done Ben,

There is always something very satisfying about constructing a turnout that actually works! The tricky bit with a tandem is that pesky middle crossing. Even working it out with Pway mathematics is acknowledged in the text books as hard work and something of an approximation. They actually recommend drawing it out to prove the geometry works!

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Post by Marquis DeCarabas » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:51 pm

If it's of any help, I have a copy of George Percy Spooner's drawing from 1879 for the three-way stub point at Portmadoc.

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Post by Maple » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:29 pm

more drawings are always helpfull, gives me an ideaof layout :)
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Post by Maple » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:33 pm

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Shame its not the layout i need, this looks amazing
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Post by Soar Valley Light » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:50 pm

It certainly does! It also clearly illustrates my point aboiut the middle crossing. That's a real special if ever I saw one!
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Post by Marquis DeCarabas » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:22 pm

In the FR example, the middle crossing is 1 in 5 and the outer two are 1 in 8.

That Weston Langford pic is Nambour Mill, isn't it?

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Post by pippindoo » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:10 pm

Look on YOUTUBE, search for 'Steaming Up Fairymead', and in the first few seconds of the video!......

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Post by Maple » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:19 pm

pipp, exactly what i am after :D for the same reason


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here is start of the loose plan, 2'6'' radius 3 way stub :)
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Post by Maple » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:32 am

and tada......

ImageDSC_0082 by benmaple, on Flickr

alot of cleaning to do but does work!
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Post by Soar Valley Light » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:13 pm

Maple,

Absolutely excellent piece of work, well done! It looks to be very professionally constructed. The fact that it works is proof of the craftsmanship involved.

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Post by Big Jim » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:47 pm

That does look rather splendid.

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Post by philipy » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:58 am

Maple,
Are the copper clad strips available commercially, or did you cut your own from sheet?
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Post by Maple » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:41 am

Thanks for the kind words guys, im tempted with doing a single slip next but have no use for one which is a problem. So i think im going to do a smaller stub point for my engine shed, then it is on to working rodding and a lever frame for them all

Phillipv, i got the copper clad from Marcway. One pack does 3 normal 2'6'' is points. you just have to cut it length. Make sure you make or buy roller gauges, they are priceless really.

http://marcway.net/ hope this helps :D
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Post by philipy » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:24 am

Cheers Maple. I've built plenty of 00 and P4 points so I'm familiar with the techniques, just wasn't aware that copper clad strip was available in 'big' scales.
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Post by Maple » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:36 am

in that case phillip it is so much easier it will be a doddle for you ( i used to do 009 ), i found my bench grinder to be more useful that a file this time round :)
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Post by philipy » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:32 pm

Yes, I guess a grinder makes sense.
All I have to do is get the asbestos roof on my garage removed and replaced with something warmer and safer ( and less leaky). Then replace whats left of the 65 year old timber doors and then maybe I'll have somewhere to put said grinder, if I can still afford one! :lol:
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