The Development of the WLR

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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by FWLR » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:47 am

This is a screen shot Jim, showing the video icon. I have posted it for you. But you can try it yourself now. Hope this makes it clearer for you.

Also, it's up to you. If after our before you add whatever video you are posting, if you drop down a couple of places with the cursor, you will leave a space between photo/video so any message is better and clearer to read.

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PS. If you click on Preview before you post, you can see what and how you are posting...
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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by steamyjim » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:09 am

Thank you both! Have embedded the video and added larger gaps between text and photos - odd that it wants two spaces to make a 'one space' gap, as I was already adding the one space.

Rik - along with Peter Jones' book, your blog has been the other main inspiration for how to go about the scenic work.
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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by steamyjim » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:33 pm

Another productive day on t'pit!

That's the majority of the mechanical bits done - boiler next now. Conveniently Meccano nuts are square which looks the part on Georgian engineering, if a little over scale.

I've got one of those engraving tools that I'm going to have a go with for putting the stonework on the firebox tomorrow - not looking forward to that. Need to suss out a way of putting a taper on the four sides of the chimney (and find a longer bit of wood!)

What would you use for pipework? I'm thinking of trying it find some heavy gauge copper wire to bend to shape...?

Really enjoying this...

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And the original inspiration at Coalbrokedale...

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Oh, and it still runs, albeit a touch fast on 1.5v...


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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by FWLR » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:38 am

Great to see you have got videos to work now. This video is brilliant and the model is superb, though yes it is a tad too fast.
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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by ge_rik » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:17 pm

steamyjim wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:09 am
Thank you both! Have embedded the video and added larger gaps between text and photos - odd that it wants two spaces to make a 'one space' gap, as I was already adding the one space.

Rik - along with Peter Jones' book, your blog has been the other main inspiration for how to go about the scenic work.
Thanks Jim
I'm delighted to hear that my musings have been helpful. Looking forward to seeing how things develop on your railway.

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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by Lonsdaler » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:01 pm

Instead of cladding the boiler with wood, which will be difficult, given the domed roof, what about cladding it with brickwork instead, constructing a brick dome over the boiler? That laser cutter really is a marvellous tool - I particularly like the moulding you've produced for the water tanks. :D
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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by steamyjim » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:40 pm

Lonsdaler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:01 pm
Instead of cladding the boiler with wood, which will be difficult, given the domed roof, what about cladding it with brickwork instead, constructing a brick dome over the boiler? That laser cutter really is a marvellous tool - I particularly like the moulding you've produced for the water tanks. :D
The boiler is where I've departed from the prototype in the picture, and gone for an uncovered domed boiler. The top is uncovered as per similar Georgian steam engines (take a look at the replica Newcomen engine at the Black Country Museum).

I had a bit of good fortune today - I started engraving the laser cut MDF boiler housing and realised that the burnt edges provided a lovely representation of blue bricks, when contrasted with the engraved away MDF showing through as light brown mortar. The top surfaces (which are un-burnt MDF) have been painted matt black and rubbed back before drying to try and give a similar effect. A bit of a conundrum now is how to achieve this finish on the chimney - the rubbed back matt black looks okay in small areas next to the nice burnt colour but I'm not sure it'll look the part all the way up the chimney. I guess I could just mix up a very dark brown and try to replicate the finish...?

The pattern I have engraved is over scale for bricks, as I was originally going to paint it as stone, but I like the look. In Bristol, there is the 'Black Castle', folly built in the 18th Century using blocks made from slag from the smelting of brass and copper so perhaps I'll say it's built from that!

I think the detail on the boiler top and the firehole door area here really shows how handy the laser cutter is - all built up out of 2d shapes...

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A few other little details added such as pipes to the cooling water tank, and some weathering here and there.

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Post by steamyjim » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:38 pm

That's about it for now until I come to install it on the line and do t[video][/video]he 'groundwork' - have to say, I'm well chuffed with how this has come out...

I achieved a passable match to the burnt edges of the MDF of the firebox casing on the chimney using quick drying matt black (blackboard) paint. I dry brushed it on, then rubbed it back with a tissue/my fingers to make it less dark. When dry, the bricks were then engraved, and finally it was all shellacked to a) stain the engraved bits, and b) after rubbing back with my fingers to give it a satin-y finish. I did two sides and got bored - need to finish the other bits tomorrow...

The motor is a 1.5-3v one, running via a 12v Hornby controller. The finesse of control just isn't there are I'm running so near the bottom of the power range. I think I shall have to hunt around for either a 6/12v version of the motor, or one with greater gear reduction - anyone have one knocking about that may replace this one? This is 30:1.

Onto the next project now!

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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by Peter Butler » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:00 am

Wonderful work all round, especially the woodwork! Great detailing with the pipes etc. You might find a Lego motor would be a better option, easy to gear down to a suitable speed and much quieter.
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Post by steamyjim » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:50 am

Peter Butler wrote: ↑
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Wonderful work all round, especially the woodwork! Great detailing with the pipes etc. You might find a Lego motor would be a better option, easy to gear down to a suitable speed and much quieter.
Thank you Peter! I like working with real wood, it saves a lot of hassle painting - I don't like hanging around waiting for paint and glue to dry, I soon get fed up and bored of the project then! To that end, I've always got plenty of quick drying matt black paint, quick drying oak stain, superglue, and shellac about - you can get by with most things with that!

I've had a look on MFA's website and they produce motors of the same footprint and mounting arrangement as this, but with different gear ratios and suitable for different voltages, so (although there are other benefits that you mention) I'm loathed to go away from this type - as you can see, it's all pretty tight in there, and a drop in replacement would be ideal! Re. noise and so forth, it probably won't actually get used all that often, more of a "yes, the coal mine does work" when visitors are around!
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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by FWLR » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:41 am

Impressive build. I like it.
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Post by ge_rik » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:43 am

Looks really good and nicely weathered....

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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by Lonsdaler » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:36 am

steamyjim wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:40 pm
Lonsdaler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:01 pm
Instead of cladding the boiler with wood, which will be difficult, given the domed roof, what about cladding it with brickwork instead, constructing a brick dome over the boiler? That laser cutter really is a marvellous tool - I particularly like the moulding you've produced for the water tanks. :D
The boiler is where I've departed from the prototype in the picture, and gone for an uncovered domed boiler. The top is uncovered as per similar Georgian steam engines (take a look at the replica Newcomen engine at the Black Country Museum).
I looked back at your earlier post and realise I've misunderstood about the cladding. The brick effect is very effective, and prototypical too. Been a long time since I've been to the Black Country Museum. I started my working life just up the road in 'Dudlay' - had to learn the local patois very quickly :lol: Now living in North Yorshire, it seems I haven't completely lost the accent, so my friends tell me anyway! :roll:
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Post by steamyjim » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:44 pm

Next! The coal mine needs a ventilation system, so I've gone for a great big fan, and as it's a Georgian mine, it's going to be powered by a Trevithick dredger engine as in the Science Museum. Motor to be hidden either under the engine or in the fan - the design is still rather fluid at the moment!

The next logical step is to put a similar model on wheels and have a 16mm scale model of Catch Me Who Can?... (or indeed any sort of Georgian locomotive).

Currently the bearing surfaces are wood on steel (except the crankshaft) - not sure how well this is going to last, perhaps okay considering it won't get used very often. Certainly, if I was building a locomotive like this I'd enlarge the conrods a tad and add brass bushings.

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The prototype...

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It all goes around too!


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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by steamyjim » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:52 pm

Lonsdaler wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:36 am
steamyjim wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:40 pm
Lonsdaler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:01 pm
Instead of cladding the boiler with wood, which will be difficult, given the domed roof, what about cladding it with brickwork instead, constructing a brick dome over the boiler? That laser cutter really is a marvellous tool - I particularly like the moulding you've produced for the water tanks. :D
The boiler is where I've departed from the prototype in the picture, and gone for an uncovered domed boiler. The top is uncovered as per similar Georgian steam engines (take a look at the replica Newcomen engine at the Black Country Museum).
I looked back at your earlier post and realise I've misunderstood about the cladding. The brick effect is very effective, and prototypical too. Been a long time since I've been to the Black Country Museum. I started my working life just up the road in 'Dudlay' - had to learn the local patois very quickly :lol: Now living in North Yorshire, it seems I haven't completely lost the accent, so my friends tell me anyway! :roll:
I'm rather pleased with how the brickwork came out - I'd been fretting about it beforehand! The Black Country Museum is always worth a visit, although I believe their Newcomen engine is currently out of commission requiring work.
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