Question regarding clean up/ after run maintainace and storage of live steam locomotive

[DCooper]

I'm doing some research on living with a live steam locomotive. My purchase is a long way off but I would like to make the experience as fun and easy as I can.

I see a lot of videos on how to get the little beauties to raise steam and run but little to nothing about the clean up, after run procedures and best practice on storage between runs. It's almost as if they magically cool down and put themselves away clean and ready for the new play time. ( How long does it take to get say an Accucraft Billy to cool down, clean and put away properly?) I'm pretty sure that there are some hidden downsides to having one of these engines and want to be prepared for the distant future when I can enjoy the live steam experience.

I also would think that the care and attention to keeping the locomotive clean and well maintained makes an impact on how long and well these machines last and perform. I'm not begrudging the high cost to acquire one of these locos but want to make sure that they stay in top condition.

Any advise or videos that you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Dan

[GTB]

I'm doing some research on living with a live steam locomotive. My purchase is a long way off but I would like to make the experience as fun and easy as I can.

If you ask ten steam loco owners, you'll probably get eleven answers.........

Since you aren't planning on buying a loco straight away, consider attending a steamup for a day to see how things work. The next one in Melbourne is this years GSSU which is on in early Nov. The website is here and bookings are now open.

https://greatsouthernsteamup.com/accomm ... -the-gssu/

Incidentally, Billy is a Roundhouse loco, not an Accucraft. A good start would be to have a poke around on the Roundhouse website and download the instruction booklet, which covers the basic operations involved in running a garden scale steam loco. There are other resources on the site worth reading, as well as the manuals. https://www.roundhouse-eng.com/

Regards,
Graeme

[WLR_CD]

I have a Billy fitted with a Slo-mo, I made a video of firing and running it:



As for putting it away, I let it cool down, make sure gas tap is closed, take out the batteries. Remove the water filler cap and upturn the loco to drain out the water. I put the filler cap back but only gently screw it back, not tight.
Occasional I might lightly oil the motion, then the loco is stored indoors on a shelf in my office.
This has worked for me for a good many years, having said that it will probably now fail the next time I use it!

Martin

[Petersfield]

... but little to nothing about the clean up, after run procedures and best practice on storage between runs. It's almost as if they magically cool down and put themselves away clean and ready for the new play time. ( How long does it take to get say an Accucraft Billy to cool down, clean and put away properly?) ...

I don't have a Billy but do have a Roundhouse Lady Anne and a Karen. I don't have a line (yet!) but have visited other 16mm group members' lines. From my experience, cooling down after a run varies considerably and I've never had a watch on it but I'd suggest allowing 15-30 minutes. Some visits I have multiple runs, for instance the last meeting I attended there were only five of us and two or three ran at a time, so the others waited for their locos to cool, reoiled and fuelled, lit up and went back out again when the others came in.

After a run, switch off the RC and loco batteries asap. Close the gas tank valve. If running again, when the loco's cool enough to handle, I replenish water and gas. Oil also needs to be replenished, also ensure you drain any water out of the oil tank before refilling. After the final run, I normally let the loco cool and do the post run work at home indoors on a desk at a suitable height, not on site in the undergrowth!

I don't store locos with gas or water in but usually drain the water from the oil and top that up again. Batteries out from loco and RC. (If you're organised, use a battery tester to check power levels to see if you need to buy any spares or putting in your loco support kit next time you go out). Like Martin, I drain the remaining water from the boiler and invert the loco to get the last of this out. A check over, I give most parts a wipe and usually get some dirt off the chassis. A light oil of moving parts and that's usually it. Maybe 15-30 minutes for this depending how thorough you are? More if you want to do some polishing of domes and paintwork.

I also log the run/s in a simple loco record file - servicing, boiler wash outs, changed parts/other work is also logged in here to save relying on my forgettery and should I ever want to sell, the info could be useful.

Also, one suggestion if you do purchase a loco - build or purchase a servicing cradle which will hold the loco upside down so you can access the chassis easily.

As GTB said, have a look on Roundhouse's site and if you can, do attend a running day.

... I also would think that the care and attention to keeping the locomotive clean and well maintained makes an impact on how long and well these machines last and perform. ...

Definitely.

[DCooper]

Graeme- Thank you for the information on the GSSU. I have watched some of the videos of past meeting as it look fascinating. If a touch intimidating as I know nothing of these things and as you pointed out with my mix up Re Billy ><Ruby don't know my elbow from a teacup Still it looks very interesting and neat to see so many loco/trains running. I will need to just get myself there. Is there a best day for someone starting out to go?

Martin- What a lovely running locomotive/train. The Slo-mo seems to make a big difference in the way the loco runs. Thanks for the advise on running of the loco.

Petersfield - Your explanation on cool down was very helpful and I very much like the idea of a service cradle. It gives me much to think about. There certainly are a lot of choices to be made starting out. I have been looking over as much of the manufactures information as I can and while it's exciting it's also a touch confusing. I think Graemes idea of going to the steamup is a good one as there seems like a lot of paths to enjoy in the hobby but the high starting price precludes the just start with 'something' and see how you go.

Do you just start at the base model say Ruby, the add a pressure gauge-extras then add RC or do you spend a bit more and get something with all those from the start?

I always think that part of the fun is in the finding out.

Thanks to you all.

[GTB]

Still it looks very interesting and neat to see so many loco/trains running. I will need to just get myself there. Is there a best day for someone starting out to go?

We all start somewhere.... There are more videos of previous GSSUs on Youtube, as well as some interstate steamups.

It's an hour drive each way for me, so I only go on the Fri. and Sat. I've been told Sun. is quieter, as things are winding down towards packing up time. I doubt it makes much difference which day you choose.

Except when they are actually running a train, most attendees would likely be happy to talk with a beginner. It's more of a social gathering than exhibitions like the AMRA show.

Graeme