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Looking for a period brakevan

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 6:42 pm
by Scrat
The train is running well.
All that it still needs is a matching brake van.
I have already made another RCH type chassis, but what should go on top to match the loco and other wagons?

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Ideas, Plans, suggestions welcome.

Re: Looking for a period brakevan

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 8:27 pm
by Petersfield
Scrat wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 6:42 pm The train is running well.
All that it still needs is a matching brake van.
I have already made another RCH type chassis, but what should go on top to match the loco and other wagons?

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Ideas, Plans, suggestions welcome.
Hmmm. You got me wondering with that Q. I didn't recall seeing a brake in Hornby's collection of L&M stock. Railways and braking obviously were in their infancy and I wondered if there were actually any dedicated vehicles at all? Wikipedia, so hardly authoritative but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_van suggests no there weren't any, brakes only came in in the 1840s.

But ... Tiger notwithstanding, the wagons are much more modern. Even if you replaced the car with a horse drawn carriage. ;) I'd suggest you pick a brake van from a pre-Grouping company or even Big Four that you like the look of and repaint/retransfer with your company's initials. Go for cute and quirky! :)

PS - maybe something like https://rapidotrains.co.uk/lbsc-4-wheel ... rake-vans/ or https://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p ... R-Road-Van?

Re: Looking for a period brakevan

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2026 10:08 pm
by Peter Butler
Whilst not a brake van, I built an early TPO van to go with my own early 1800's set, which has exterior seat for a riding guard.
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Re: Looking for a period brakevan

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2026 9:55 am
by Scrat
Thanks for the answers.
I am aware that the wagons are more modern than the loco.
Morton brake was made mandatory for private owner wagons by RCH about 1920 if I am correct.

So my thoughts are on the one mentioned here:

https://www.olddevonport.uk/Railways-Pl ... ompany.htm

What do you think about this one?

Re: Looking for a period brakevan

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2026 10:01 am
by Scrat
Petersfield wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 8:27 pm ...Even if you replaced the car with a horse drawn carriage. ;) ...
This tinplate car has a story of its own. It is a Citroen 11BL.
I bought it many years ago as a load for my GWR Loriot. It had that job until being replaced by a steam tractor.

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In September 2024, another "model" of this car turned up in my garage:

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Citroen 11BL, 1955, 1911 ccm, 57 hp

Is that fate?

Re: Looking for a period brakevan

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2026 2:15 pm
by Petersfield
Scrat wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 9:55 am Thanks for the answers.
I am aware that the wagons are more modern than the loco.
Morton brake was made mandatory for private owner wagons by RCH about 1920 if I am correct.

So my thoughts are on the one mentioned here:

https://www.olddevonport.uk/Railways-Pl ... ompany.htm

What do you think about this one?
It looks fine to me. Suitably 'vintage' and different. Though I have to say I'm taken with Mr B's Royal Mail van too! One of each? ;)
Scrat wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 10:01 am
Petersfield wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 8:27 pm ...Even if you replaced the car with a horse drawn carriage. ;) ...
This tinplate car has a story of its own. It is a Citroen 11BL.
I bought it many years ago as a load for my GWR Loriot. It had that job until being replaced by a steam tractor.

In September 2024, another "model" of this car turned up in my garage:

Citroen 11BL, 1955, 1911 ccm, 57 hp

Is that fate?
It sometimes feels that way. I like both the load and haulage!