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The West Willows Railway

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 1:13 pm
by Sprag
Hi everyone!

I recently joined the forum, as I wanted to share the development of my 'first proper garden railway', this is actually my third layout, but my previous attempts were temporary efforts in rented property gardens - and you would think these would act as learning experiences - but we'll see how they don't a little later on ;)

First a potted history of previous lines.
The first line was the Dolffanog Fach Light Railway, a 45mm gauge oval in gravel on ground level using LGB set track R1 radius curves. A passing loop and sidings were added to create more visual interest and the loop extended after the initial build. It was great to get trains running, and easy to remove once we had to move on. The line saw a a good amount of service and if I find more pics I'll put them up. The ground-level aspect was a pain in the knees, and so I knew future lines would need to be raised.
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The second line, The Molehill Tramway, was built during a trying time. My dad fell ill in 2021 and I built a temporary line out of a circle of Mamod track on some decking board, which sat on the blocks that usually live between pallet layers! It was remarkably hardy and trains ran well. Sadly, we lost dad later that year.

The line lasted a good 18 months before we moved into our (current) purchased home in 2022. It's safe to say that railway was a project that distracted from what was otherwise a terrible time, and it's existence probably kept my wife and I sane during an otherwise challenging part of our lives, encouraging us both to spend time in the garden and focus on what was in front of us and keep us grounded. We had plenty of afternoons watching trains slowly rattle around the circuit and this played into my wife's support for a larger circuit at our current home.

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The New Project
So that brings us to the present day - the garden has needed a fair bit of work to get it into it's current state - but the layout will be in a raised bed to the left, meeting a happy medium between 'off the ground' and a railway in the garden.
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I'm not experienced with concrete or blocks etc, so I decided that I wanted to start with timber as I find it easier to manipulate. Over the years I will slowly replace sections with Filcris (when budget allows) But it's safe to say this is a first draft of what I want. I have used mostly reclaimed material from a car port that used to occupy the garden and from the fencing - it's good quality wood with life left in it that should last a few years.
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The frame, simply baton screwed to posts in the ground.
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I learned a lesson after setting up this area - which I wasn't aware of until it came to laying track - I'll elaborate below*
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The rough layout starting to get a top put on. The posts are based in deep gravel, the idea being it may be easier to replace sections in the future.
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I couldn't have made the progress I have without help from the family, my wife is helping my youngest daughter here - her ear defenders are for the jigsaw I'm using nearby....not the screwdriver :lol:

And finally after 5 weekends of posts, drilling, measuring, and sawing, we ended up with our basic layout, and track work has begun.
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I'd like to mention I intend to go around the layout and tidy up with the jigsaw once we have a final track plan sorted - I appreciate everything looks a little rough at the moment - I'll put a bit of that down to over-excitedness or maybe tiredness depending on the say I was laying the sections.

*As I hinted in an earlier caption - the area where the two sets of points are at the bottom of the photo is troublesome. I have mis-judged the angle of the point work and need to make some adjustments if I want to keep the current set up. I went in all guns blazing with excitement and learned that i should have taken extra care here. I'm also no longer happy with the idea of a loop for what I intended to be the station area so the track work will be getting a tweak during the next session. The soil level will raise once the line is constructed to level everything out. The rocks that appear later in the photos were dug up this weekend as we started looking at preparing our garden for turf...turns out there was a lot of rocks, concrete and slate to be found.

After seeing everything in place I did have a thought, that being to go around the layout, trimming edges, levelling minor lumps and bumps, then possibly wrapping the top in Shed felt. From there, I could later ad edging to the top and ballast the track in the future to improve the over all aesthetic - any thoughts and suggestions welcome regarding all of the above!

And that is everything up until now - I hope to get back out into the garden next Sunday - fingers crossed the track work can progress. I'd like to have something running in the next few weeks - fingers crossed!

Re: Third times a charm - New currently nameless railway

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:45 pm
by ge_rik
You've made an impressive start. You're clearly putting down quite permanent roots for this railway. It looks like it'll be a great way of showcasing your dad's and your own stock. Looking forward to watching it develop.

Rik

Re: Third times a charm - New currently nameless railway

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:21 pm
by GAP
That is a nice looking little layout more pictures as work progresses please.

This is how I ballasted and finished off a line that is running in electrical cable tray.
I get the artificial turf from a cheap shop in either 3Mx1M or 1Mx1M.
Its easy to cut with a sharp knife and I used a type of rubberised contact glue made for professional turf layers.
I am using all over my layouts as it hides a multitude of bad carpentry.

https://ringbalin-light-railway.blogspo ... -line.html

Re: Third times a charm - New currently nameless railway

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:16 am
by Sprag
Thank you both for your kind comments. I hope I can tidy this all up in good time - and I'll look into options for hiding that top too! Onwards and upwards! 8)

Re: Third times a charm - New currently nameless railway

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:46 am
by tommygander1941
Looks like a very nice little line, shame though you can't extend it into the shed...

Re: Third times a charm - New currently nameless railway

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:15 am
by Sprag
tommygander1941 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:46 am Looks like a very nice little line, shame though you can't extend it into the shed...
Well...I can't extend into 'that' shed...the new one is going to be roughly where the pallet is at the bottom of the photo - long-term plan is to have the line go into a shed / sheltered area for preparing locos - fingers crossed 8)

Re: Third times a charm - New currently nameless railway

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:54 am
by drewzero1
I do love a good raised bed railway. Ah, so that's how I should have done it! :mrgreen:

Re: Third times a charm - New currently nameless railway

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:27 am
by Sprag
drewzero1 wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:54 am I do love a good raised bed railway. Ah, so that's how I should have done it! :mrgreen:
It certainly has it's advantages, but it doesn't eliminate getting on your hands and knees if anything happens towards the back of the layout out of reach (oops).

Sunday was the first test run on the railway, and things didn't quite go to plan, oh dear. I must have laid the curves (set track) a little tight, as I had to pull up a whole corner and re-lay it, which means the wood work needs re-laying in the near future too. A bodge kept everything sturdy though for now. I'll have another test steam tonight and see how things run. I also tested my little locoremote Hythe Pier loco, which runs well. However it performs acrobatics on a track join when travelling anti-clockwise...something to keep in mind to fix next session, I'll re-lay that section so there isn't a join on a curve. 

As I have been testing and running I think maybe I should have constructed the layout with the slats running parallel to the track rather than across the frame. It seems some of the timber is thicker than other lengths, which is odd as it's all from the same supplier! I think I would have got a smoother experience building this way first then expanding from there. However I think when it comes to replacing sections in the future, I'll cautiously say I'm thinking that Thermalite blocks on their side, bedded in concrete may be the way forward - and maybe I'll need to get some help in too so that I have someone who knows what they're doing to guide me  8)

Some shots of the line:

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Once the track is ironed out...I'm itching to trim up the edges of the boards and tidy everything up - I think a bit of shed felt on the tops would improve things and a nice tidy bit of trim on the edges too in the long run.

The ground will be built up to the height of the container on the outer edges, then higher on the inside of the layout, head gardener knows what we're doing in terms of horticulture too which is exciting. Hopefully we'll struggle to see the rear of the line in places if we get this right.

I have to say, I'm enjoying the process, and I can imagine the plants adding another dimension to the scene. We're continually finding rocks and rubble under our garden too so they will make their way onto the railway - at this rate I may need to add a quarry!


Re: Third times a charm - New currently nameless railway

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:51 pm
by Soar Valley Light
That's a very impressive (and sound) piece of construction. Your blockwork is lovely and those steps are superb. Your trackbed looks very robust and should give you very little trouble for a very long time!

As drew zero said................
drewzero1 wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:54 am I do love a good raised bed railway. Ah, so that's how I should have done it! :mrgreen:
Look forward to seeing more as work progresses.

SVLR Andrew

Re: The West Willows Railway

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:03 am
by Sprag
After a few weeks of running trains, having a jolly good time, I couldn't shake the feeling I could have done a better job with the construction. I don't sit on ideas...so it was time to move forward 'phase 2'.

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Oh yeah...we have grass now in the garden too...

The original build cost me nothing, it was left-over timber from our fence build last year. But as many will have seen, it wasn't the prettiest of creations. So we got a couple of 8x4 Marine play sheets and a roll of heavy duty shed felt delivered last week, and I set about re-building the layout the weekend of 31st May - 1st June. It was another joint effort, and I'm greatly indebted to my wife and mother for helping so much.

The end corners are one continuous sheet, cut into 2ft 6 radius curves, and I straightened out the rear line. The station / yard area, is one sheets of 8 foot x 2foot wood screwed to 8 posts underneath secured with baton - the idea in the future is to add sidings off that board for shunting. The remaining ply was formed into the joining lines for the station to the main circuit. Everything is level as possible, in fact the spirit level was bob-on for 99% of the build in all directions, so I anticipate smoother running than the original draft.

Now I know there are varying opinions on shed felt topping timber, I'll be putting edging on the boards in the future and then ballasting the boards 'properly', so it'll all be incidental in the future, but for now, it looks tidier than plain ply.

Next step will be re-laying track - I've invested in a dremel-like tool for cutting track and will be checking every single level I can - the idea being this line will be good enough for visitors to come and run.

Re: The West Willows Railway

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:47 am
by Peter Butler
I have to say it looks a very tidy job you have done there. However, I strongly suggest you add longitudinal support battens between all of the posts to give continuous strength underneath the plywood. Although it is described as 'Marine ply' it is still likely to distort.
Despite not being happy with your original structure's appearance, it might have given better support than the current one.

Re: The West Willows Railway

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:33 am
by Sprag
Peter Butler wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:47 am I have to say it looks a very tidy job you have done there. However, I strongly suggest you add longitudinal support battens between all of the posts to give continuous strength underneath the plywood. Although it is described as 'Marine ply' it is still likely to distort.
Despite not being happy with your original structure's appearance, it might have given better support than the current one.
Ah! OK noted, I'll add some supports before I fill the bed up to level with the track bed! Would hate to have issues after taking so much care.