Garden Railway Forum

CSL wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:23 pm

CaptainClockwork wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:37 pm ... the possibility that I'll have to ask PayPal for my money back is pretty high, but what's life without a little risk?

Come to think of it, assuming the money is reclaimed from PayPal, does PayPal take the hit/reclaim the loss from an insurance policy? Or to put it another way, does legitimate business hand money to the black market as a direct result of its customer's independent decision?

dewintondave wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:45 pm
I'd be happy for PayPal not to refund these greedy folks, they need to learn their lesson

CSL wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:28 am

dewintondave wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:45 pm
I'd be happy for PayPal not to refund these greedy folks, they need to learn their lesson

That rather misses the point of my post, which was that even if a "purchaser" is refunded, as far as I can see money is still given to the scammers, therefore encouraging more scams to be created.

dewintondave wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:45 pm I'd be happy for PayPal not to refund these greedy folks, they need to learn their lesson

ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:02 pm I've always fancied doing what James Veitch did ...... but never had the opportunity or the time
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Rik

CaptainClockwork wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:46 am I was just browsing through old threads here when this one jogged my memory - sorry for the lack of updates! This order took so long to show up that I had quite forgotten about it by the time it arrived.

I did indeed receive a package for this purchase (earlier this year, some months after I placed the order), but it was indeed a scam, as we all expected. I unfortunately did not think to take photos at the time, but what was delivered to me was a metal "model" steam loco that more resembled a Christmas tree ornament than anything functional. No motor, no motion, and of course, no live steam. I think the only true statement from the original advertisement was that it was constructed of metal. I still have the "loco" somewhere; I shall have to dig it out and take pictures so we can all appreciate the beautiful craftsmanship (sarcasm heavily implied).

I decided not to proceed with attempting a PayPal refund, as it isn't fair for PayPal to eat this loss when we all knew what this outcome would be. As I stated originally, let this be a lesson to all those out there looking at deals on the internet; if it looks too good to be true, it probably is!

CaptainClockwork wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:46 am I was just browsing through old threads here when this one jogged my memory - sorry for the lack of updates! This order took so long to show up that I had quite forgotten about it by the time it arrived.

I did indeed receive a package for this purchase (earlier this year, some months after I placed the order), but it was indeed a scam, as we all expected. I unfortunately did not think to take photos at the time, but what was delivered to me was a metal "model" steam loco that more resembled a Christmas tree ornament than anything functional. No motor, no motion, and of course, no live steam. I think the only true statement from the original advertisement was that it was constructed of metal. I still have the "loco" somewhere; I shall have to dig it out and take pictures so we can all appreciate the beautiful craftsmanship (sarcasm heavily implied).

I decided not to proceed with attempting a PayPal refund, as it isn't fair for PayPal to eat this loss when we all knew what this outcome would be. As I stated originally, let this be a lesson to all those out there looking at deals on the internet; if it looks too good to be true, it probably is!