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My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by riber3 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:30 pm

Hello everyone I am looking to buy/make my 1st loco and since I am now on very tight budget due to buying some 45mm track and my car breaking down this week I thought I would get some recommendations.
I know can try and find a cheap Playmobil loco if I am lucky but I have also been looking at one of these kits

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16mm-SM32-or ... %7Ciid%3A1

I don't know if they are any good (I mean no disrespect to the seller) but I don't know if they can be battery powered or what their pulling power is like. So if nayone has any knowledge of these or has any other suggestions I would be most grateful for your input

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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:07 pm

Hi and welcome.

No experience of the seller, however, at that price you cannot really complain if it does not meet your expectations.

IP Engineering are a well known supplier of budget garden railway stock:

https://www.ipenginnering.com/

No, I haven't spelt the web address wrong that is what they are currently using.

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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:12 pm

I have some experience of these kits, one which I built for a friend and another I was asked to finish by fitting RC gear etc. (I sent that one back to its owner!) In both cases I wasn't impressed with the kits, not that they are poorly designed and printed, rather that they are made of flimsy, lightweight material which will last about a week! The build itself is also not simple and edges are exposed and unfinished.
Elsewhere, others have noticed the colour change when exposed to daylight.... that's where a garden railway is usually sited.
Save your money for something more substantial, or just buy a chassis and build your own body, by far the best option.
Try to get something with metal (not plastic) wheels and four wheel drive. 3v motors (as usually supplied with budget chassis) have no pulling power whatsoever and can't be improved by adding much needed weight.
I am currently building a PDF (3D printed) Hunslet kit and it is very well designed and manufactured and just needs battery to finish. You can have a 12v motor as an option which will give extra power and longer running. It does however need a lot of preparation for a nice paint finish, but worth the effort.
I'm sure there will be other (more useful) advice given so carry on saving for a while.
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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by Busted Bricks » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:15 pm

For the money you really can't go wrong with a loco kit from HGLW.

http://www.hglw.co.uk/Locos.html

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Post by ge_rik » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:46 pm

Busted Bricks wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:15 pm
For the money you really can't go wrong with a loco kit from HGLW.

http://www.hglw.co.uk/Locos.html
That would be my recommendation as well. Easy to build and robust with a decent mechanism.
I wrote up my build of one of their locos here.... https://riksrailway.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... t-and.html

I've also added Deltang RC and an Acme soundcard

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Post by ge_rik » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:16 pm

PS
If you don't mind using your phone or tablet as a transmitter, you could cut costs the control system by using one of these http://locoremote.co.uk/




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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by metalmuncher » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:28 pm

I second the recommendations for IP Engineering and HGLW - we have laser cut kit locos from both on our line and are very happy with them.

Phil Sharples also does a few laser cut loco kits, e.g: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sm32-Sm45-16 ... 3340227699

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Post by BorisSpencer » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:06 pm

+1 for HGLW excellent budget kits, and a massive +10 for PS models, loads of lovely simple to build kits which you can improve upon with your own detailing.

The PS kit linked above above will not disappoint. It won't pull a rake of loaded tippers, but will manage adequately pulling half a dozen of Phil's wagons.

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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by riber3 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:34 pm

tom_tom_go wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:07 pm
Hi and welcome.

No experience of the seller, however, at that price you cannot really complain if it does not meet your expectations.

IP Engineering are a well known supplier of budget garden railway stock:

https://www.ipenginnering.com/

No, I haven't spelt the web address wrong that is what they are currently using.
Thanks for your reply and the web address

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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by riber3 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:37 pm

Peter Butler wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:12 pm
I have some experience of these kits, one which I built for a friend and another I was asked to finish by fitting RC gear etc. (I sent that one back to its owner!) In both cases I wasn't impressed with the kits, not that they are poorly designed and printed, rather that they are made of flimsy, lightweight material which will last about a week! The build itself is also not simple and edges are exposed and unfinished.
Elsewhere, others have noticed the colour change when exposed to daylight.... that's where a garden railway is usually sited.
Save your money for something more substantial, or just buy a chassis and build your own body, by far the best option.
Try to get something with metal (not plastic) wheels and four wheel drive. 3v motors (as usually supplied with budget chassis) have no pulling power whatsoever and can't be improved by adding much needed weight.
I am currently building a PDF (3D printed) Hunslet kit and it is very well designed and manufactured and just needs battery to finish. You can have a 12v motor as an option which will give extra power and longer running. It does however need a lot of preparation for a nice paint finish, but worth the effort.
I'm sure there will be other (more useful) advice given so carry on saving for a while.
Thank you so much for the advice as the last thing I want is something too flimsy I will go and have a look at the Hunslet kit I recall seeing one somewhere but will recheck

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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by riber3 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:41 pm

Busted Bricks wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:15 pm
For the money you really can't go wrong with a loco kit from HGLW.

http://www.hglw.co.uk/Locos.html
Wow!! they look quite impressive I will go and read a little more on their website. Thank you very much for the info

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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by riber3 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:45 pm

ge_rik wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:46 pm
Busted Bricks wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:15 pm
For the money you really can't go wrong with a loco kit from HGLW.

http://www.hglw.co.uk/Locos.html
That would be my recommendation as well. Easy to build and robust with a decent mechanism.
I wrote up my build of one of their locos here.... https://riksrailway.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... t-and.html

I've also added Deltang RC and an Acme soundcard

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Rik
That is brilliant Thank you. I have just had a quick read of your website its very good and look forward to reading more and watching your videos

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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by riber3 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:47 pm

ge_rik wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:16 pm
PS
If you don't mind using your phone or tablet as a transmitter, you could cut costs the control system by using one of these http://locoremote.co.uk/




Rik
I Like this and thanks for the heads up will definitely consider this at a later point

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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by riber3 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:51 pm

metalmuncher wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:28 pm
I second the recommendations for IP Engineering and HGLW - we have laser cut kit locos from both on our line and are very happy with them.

Phil Sharples also does a few laser cut loco kits, e.g: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sm32-Sm45-16 ... 3340227699
Thank you for you input

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Re: My First Loco Recommendations Please

Post by riber3 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:53 pm

BorisSpencer wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:06 pm
+1 for HGLW excellent budget kits, and a massive +10 for PS models, loads of lovely simple to build kits which you can improve upon with your own detailing.

The PS kit linked above above will not disappoint. It won't pull a rake of loaded tippers, but will manage adequately pulling half a dozen of Phil's wagons.
Thank you for the advice I will have a look at this PS kits too as well via the ebay link

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