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Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:45 am
by Andrew
tom_tom_go wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:39 pm I like the slot together design and as you are going to clad over the slots they won't show unlike on some laser wood cut kits.
It's working pretty well for me so far - I took it apart and put it back together again twice yesterday, once to cut the windows and once to modify the roof. I could've avoided all that by doing some really careful planning before I started, but I'm rather enjoying the carefree make-it-up-as-I-go-along approach. The tabs should make the finished thing stronger too, because I wouldn't have been able to brace the corners in the open waiting area.

I woke up early this morning and couldn't get back to sleep, so got up and started cutting the roof pieces at about 5:30am. Clearly i wasn't as awake as I thought because I cut them half a centimetre too short - not to worry, I'll stick on an extra bit because, as you say, it'll all get covered with corrugated cladding...

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:02 am
by Andrew
Hello!

I've made a little more progress on this project, cobbling a roof together and cutting the end wall to represent the wooden framing that is a feature of the real thing:
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The roof was cut from some foamboard that was going to be thrown away somewhere i used to work. It's too good to waste but not terribly pleasant to work with - dense and difficult to cut, and there's a very sticky residue left behind when I peel off the display that used to be stuck t the front. Theat's why there are all sorts of horrors stuck to the roof - they'll all be covered up eventually...

I've made a start on cutting out the corrugated cladding too. Only one piece done so far but that was much easier than I thought so I'm hoping to make more progress at the weekend.
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I'm quite pleased with how the internal frame's looking - the back of the waiting area will look the same, but the framing there will only be cosmetic, I'm going to leave the rear wall intact for extra strength. There should really be a window in the back walls of the waiting area and office, but there's nothing to see there and no light to be had, so I'm not going to bother...

Cheers all,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:47 am
by philipy
That framing does look good. I didn't read it properly and I was just going to suggest cosmetic framing on the back wall, but fortunately I read it again properly before making an idiot of myself! :oops:

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:57 am
by tom_tom_go
Who makes the corrugated sheets?

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:06 pm
by Andrew
The one in the picture is Tenmille, purchased directly from them. It's actually their asbestos sheeting, intended for G1 I think, but it's about right for corrugated iron in 16mm. It's been easy to mark and cut, but it's quite thin (might become brittle after a while) and fairly expensive (c£5 for a 200x250mm sheet). The finished building will also feature some 25-year old Brandbright corrugated sheet, some rescued from previous projects - unfortunately that no longer seems to be available.

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:40 am
by Andrew
Hello all,

I made a little more progress on the station building over the weekend - my modelling time seems to come in small chunks, an hour here, half-an-hour there, which is tricky with some projects but seems to be working OK for this one...

The corrugated cladding is now in permanently in place at one end:
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The back wall of the waiting area now has its cosmetic wooden frame - the black corrugated sheet here is the old Brandbright stuff, happily just the same size as Tenmille asbestos sheet. The latter will need pins adding to represent whatever it is corrugated iron's fixed with - the Brandbright stuff has that.

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And at the other end a door has been added to allow access to the office - the next job will be to add another one on the other side from the office to the waiting area.
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That's all for now, but it's taking shape...

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:47 am
by philipy
Andrew wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:40 am

That's all for now, but it's taking shape...

It certainly is, and very nicely too.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:41 am
by Peter Butler
Looks really good, well detailed and convincing structure. Well worth spending time adding the interior framing, makes all the difference.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:30 am
by Andrew
Peter Butler wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:41 am Well worth spending time adding the interior framing, makes all the difference.
I think so - I didn't realise how important it was until I looked carefully at some photos of the real thing. My daughter prefers the framed inside to the plain outside and wants me to reassemble it inside out... You can't tell from the photos, but the framing is scribed with a saw blade to represent the grain in the timber - I believe the technique's known as "The Butler Method"...

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:47 am
by ge_rik
Looking good, Andrew. I like the combination of techniques. That corrugated sheeting looks effective.

Rik

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:15 pm
by Peter Butler
Andrew wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:30 am
Peter Butler wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:41 am ...... the framing is scribed with a saw blade to represent the grain in the timber - I believe the technique's known as "The Butler Method"...

Cheers,

Andrew.
I will pass on your comments to my Gentleman's Gentleman, he will be delighted to hear his efforts have been recognised!

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:08 am
by Andrew
Good morning!

Progress this week has been hampered a little by my taking my "slot and tab" construction technique a step too far on Monday evening when I attempted to cut a slot in my finger... Whilst cutting a recess into the foam board I applied too much pressure (and not enough care), snapping the end off the knife blade and sending the remaining stump through my nail and into my index finger. That was enough to stop any further modelling that evening, but on the whole I seem to have got away with it very lightly...

Somewhat gingerly, I picked up my tools again yesterday evening and set to work on the plastic "woodwork" that surrounds the opening to the waiting area. There's not much to see, the work mostly involving a lot of head-scratching and a little light Butler-ing to create the grain effect, but here's where I'm at so far:
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Mr Tarkin has also sustained an injury and is rubbing his head whilst pointing to the offending piece of joinery. Those diagonal bits do come out a little low (even accepting that the figure's fairly tall), but I'll just have to use short figures there! I was wondering about a representation of Miriam Roberts, Beddgelert's "girl stationmistress", but she wore Welsh national costume and I fear the woodwork may knock her stovepipe hat off...

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:29 am
by Lonsdaler
Through the nail? A very painful injury :o Very early on in the building of my garden railway I managed to introduce two of my fingers to my circular saw :roll: I strongly recommend that people do not try this at home, work or anywhere else!
The most embarrassing part of the whole palaver was fainting in the kitchen and hitting my head on the stone floor, which added a whole new level of drama to the incident!
The building looks great - can't wait to see it finished, and I wouldn't worry about the low level of the angled support - your customers will soon learn where it is :mrgreen:

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:30 am
by philipy
Think Tom needs to add a banner to the top of the page " WARNING! Railway modelling can seriously damage your health"

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:41 am
by tom_tom_go
philipy wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:30 am Think Tom needs to add a banner to the top of the page " WARNING! Railway modelling can seriously damage your health"
Physically and mentally!

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:38 pm
by ge_rik
tom_tom_go wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:41 am
philipy wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:30 am Think Tom needs to add a banner to the top of the page " WARNING! Railway modelling can seriously damage your health"
Physically and mentally!
And financially

Rik

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:50 am
by Andrew
Ah, but modelling can be very therapeutic too - I reckon it's all about the right project at the right time, and when you're in the right head-space...

Anyway, I added the interior door yesterday evening, before disassembling the thing for the last time, to make sure I'd got all of the protective film off the foam board:
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I'm busy this evening, but I hope to cut and fit the cladding at the weekend, and then it should really begin to look the part...

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:11 am
by tom_tom_go
It looks like the Empire dude has discovered the force and destroyed the building!

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:24 am
by Peter Butler
Displayed on a red and white background makes me think of the barber's pole, blood and bandage...... makes me shiver just thinking about the injury sustained.

Re: (WH)WHR Buildings

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:08 pm
by invicta280
Craft knives can indeed be lethal. I was once hospitalized (outpatient) courtesy of Swann- Morton. The safety cover was a piece of plastic heat crimped on to the blade and Dingbat here tried to remove the cover by using my thumbnail against the cover with some force, thinking that I was applying pressure to the back of the blade. When the cover slipped off the back of my thumb opened up like a sausage cut lengthways, ; down to the bone! Forty years later the scar is still well defined. :|