To notch or not to notch

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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:10 am

dewintondave wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:02 am
It will cause extra wear, because it's an extra load for the loco. Anyway, if one can afford a ssp slomo, one can afford repairs :D
Running a loco with a heavy train causes extra wear as well :mrgreen:

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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by TonyW » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:47 pm

tom_tom_go wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:10 am
Running a loco with a heavy train causes extra wear as well :mrgreen:
Which is, of course, another solution!

Want to tame your loco? Put a bigger train behind it.

Want your loco to chuff louder? Put a bigger train behind it.

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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by Keith S » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:11 pm

The best way to avoid wear, as well as to make the most efficient use of a given quantity of butane or coal, is to leave the loco on a shelf and dust it off once in a while. This is what I do, and this style of running induces practically no wear to the running gear, uses very little butane, and the locomotive goes very slowly indeed. It's been on the shelf about a year now and the engine hasn't even moved far enough to run the slack out of the coupling chains. I have to admit, the chuff is extremely quiet however.

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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by IanC » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:32 pm

Keith S wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:11 pm
The best way to avoid wear, as well as to make the most efficient use of a given quantity of butane or coal, is to leave the loco on a shelf and dust it off once in a while. This is what I do, and this style of running induces practically no wear to the running gear, uses very little butane, and the locomotive goes very slowly indeed. It's been on the shelf about a year now and the engine hasn't even moved far enough to run the slack out of the coupling chains. I have to admit, the chuff is extremely quiet however.
:thumbright: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's so very true. I don't run my locos enough to wear them out in my lifetime. With or without a slomo or running big trains.
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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by dewintondave » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:28 pm

tom_tom_go wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:10 am
Running a loco with a heavy train causes extra wear as well :mrgreen:
Running a heavy train with a slomo equipped loco would be like cruelty to engines 💪
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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:53 pm

Keith S wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:11 pm
The best way to avoid wear, as well as to make the most efficient use of a given quantity of butane or coal, is to leave the loco on a shelf and dust it off once in a while. This is what I do, and this style of running induces practically no wear to the running gear, uses very little butane, and the locomotive goes very slowly indeed. It's been on the shelf about a year now and the engine hasn't even moved far enough to run the slack out of the coupling chains. I have to admit, the chuff is extremely quiet however.
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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by tom_tom_go » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:09 pm

steveh99 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:14 pm
If anyone can better this without a slomo, paste your video here. I don't have anything else to say on this subject
I thought I would post this in response although I obviously have a Slomo fitted ;)


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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by Keith S » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:35 am

Amazing. A real driver on a full-sized locomotive would be hard-pressed to drive that delicately. Also, I love the simulated drain cocks. The little spurt of steam from the vicinity of the cylinders is very convincing and adds a lot of visual appeal.

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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by dewintondave » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:41 am

tom_tom_go wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:09 pm
I thought I would post this in response although I obviously have a Slomo fitted ;)
Here's my contribution, it doesn't have a Slomo fitted, unlike Tom's... :D

Zip along to 2:42
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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by Andrew » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:29 am

Keith S wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:35 am
Amazing. A real driver on a full-sized locomotive would be hard-pressed to drive that delicately.
I recall a TV programme about thirty years ago, possibly "You Bet", in which a driver at the Mid-Hants Railway attempted to drive his loco, a Bulleid Pacific, up to another (the T9, I think) so gently that he could trap an egg between the buffers of the two without cracking it. Alas, he failed, but I reckon he must have succeeded many times before or they wouldn't have attempted it on Saturday evening telly. Although I believe Bulleid's loco's were fitted with Slomos...

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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by Keith S » Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:22 pm

Well, I DID say "hard pressed", not that it would be impossible! Of course, on a Bullied Pacific, the massive boxpok driving wheels and chain-driven valve gear probably has the same effect as a "slomo", so I don't know if you're quite correct about them not having one!

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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by tom_tom_go » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:16 pm

Another Slomo example:


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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by dewintondave » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:44 pm

Listen to that loud chuff, the poor NA must be struggling against the non-drag of the slomo!
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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by tom_tom_go » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:39 am

dewintondave wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:44 pm
Listen to that loud chuff, the poor NA must be struggling against the non-drag of the slomo!
It has a Summerlands Chuffer fitted Dave.

Listen to these NA's you can hear the difference:


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Re: To notch or not to notch

Post by dewintondave » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:14 am

tom_tom_go wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:39 am
It has a Summerlands Chuffer fitted Dave.

Listen to these NA's you can hear the difference:
That was a marvellous sight Tom

They really do sound different
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