Railbus for the PMR
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Well as Friday is my day off (well the day I shouldn't have anything booked into the diary) I was able to spend an hour or two in the shed.
The skirts are have been fitted on one side and when complete all the way around will have a wrap of .010 plasticard to tidy them up and details of access panels will be added. I still do not know quite what to do with the doors yet. I think I will just remove the 1/4'' of body below the apeture and make the doors slightly longer. I could cut the floor about to make an internal step, but I don't know how visible it will be when the roof is on so I may not bother. There is also the issue of not having much room to fit batteries and electrical whotsitry.
The height is now much more scale and the skirts mean that it does not look like it is on stilts anymore.
The curved ends were made from a plasticard frame with .010'' strips laminated over it. They are remarkably strong.
The centre bracing was set off centre to allow for a coupling to be fitted if required. One thing to I try to remember to do when making something that is fully enclosed is to drill a few holes in the back when finished. I found out the need for this the hard way when I had some plasticard boxes swell up on a hot day due to the expansion of the air inside.
The skirts are have been fitted on one side and when complete all the way around will have a wrap of .010 plasticard to tidy them up and details of access panels will be added. I still do not know quite what to do with the doors yet. I think I will just remove the 1/4'' of body below the apeture and make the doors slightly longer. I could cut the floor about to make an internal step, but I don't know how visible it will be when the roof is on so I may not bother. There is also the issue of not having much room to fit batteries and electrical whotsitry.
The height is now much more scale and the skirts mean that it does not look like it is on stilts anymore.
The curved ends were made from a plasticard frame with .010'' strips laminated over it. They are remarkably strong.
The centre bracing was set off centre to allow for a coupling to be fitted if required. One thing to I try to remember to do when making something that is fully enclosed is to drill a few holes in the back when finished. I found out the need for this the hard way when I had some plasticard boxes swell up on a hot day due to the expansion of the air inside.
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That's done it Jim, just as I imagined... I can't draw anything to explain my intentions but can visualise the result and that is exactly what I saw.
Once painted that will look as though it was always there.
Once painted that will look as though it was always there.
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Wow, that makes so much difference. Just right!
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I agree, it has gone from looking like a toy tram to a believable loco.
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Thanks for the kind words.
Until I got this far with it I was not sure that it was going to get finished. It definitely looks less toy like.
I think I will leave a small gap between the skirt and the body, it seems to look better than having them flush.
Until I got this far with it I was not sure that it was going to get finished. It definitely looks less toy like.
I think I will leave a small gap between the skirt and the body, it seems to look better than having them flush.
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Absolutely cracking, Big Jim!
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Traffic Pattern? What pattern? Spuds out; grain in, but cattle, sheep and passengers are a lot less predictable.
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I was wondering about the colour. The PMR passenger livery is dark green, with black lining/detail. I/C engines are all Oxford blue. (As opposed to Norwegian Blue which keeps falling off what ever it is painted onto unless secured by nails)
The 'speed-whiskers' and prominent lights remind me a lot of DELTIC so I was wondering about pale blue and cream for the whiskers?
The 'speed-whiskers' and prominent lights remind me a lot of DELTIC so I was wondering about pale blue and cream for the whiskers?
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The skirts look great Jim ...have you looked at the colour of the old Blackpool Trams...a light cream and green stripes I recall.
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I did think of that. But I am not sure that that much cream is a good idea in the mud patch that is West Wales.
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Blue and cream and call it Celtic as you're west Wales...
With a few passengers the floor issue will go away I reckon. It was a few passes of Peter's bus before I realise it was full of amputees if you need to create an illusion or space for batteries.
With a few passengers the floor issue will go away I reckon. It was a few passes of Peter's bus before I realise it was full of amputees if you need to create an illusion or space for batteries.
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That is just brilliant!
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Oxford blue lower panels, cream upper? Close to the old GNR(I) railcar livery which was a variant on the locomotive livery.
Peter in Va
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Traffic Pattern? What pattern? Spuds out; grain in, but cattle, sheep and passengers are a lot less predictable.
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Blue and cream of some description is probably the way forward. I hope to get into the shed tomorrow as I have an empty diary (for now anyway). I will post pictures of how I get on.
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No pictures as I forgot to take my phone out to the shed.
I have been having some thoughts about the body, I think the lower pair of lights need to go. The single head lamp is okay and seems to fir but I am thinking that lower pair are way too large for taillights. Anyone got any thoughts?
I have been having some thoughts about the body, I think the lower pair of lights need to go. The single head lamp is okay and seems to fir but I am thinking that lower pair are way too large for taillights. Anyone got any thoughts?
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Take a look at some photographs of the original British Railways Railbuses from the 1950s and see what you think. I'd be inclined to leave them. However, your railway; your rules!Big Jim wrote: โFri Dec 15, 2017 6:02 pm No pictures as I forgot to take my phone out to the shed.
I have been having some thoughts about the body, I think the lower pair of lights need to go. The single head lamp is okay and seems to fir but I am thinking that lower pair are way too large for taillights. Anyone got any thoughts?
Peter in Va.
Traffic Pattern? What pattern? Spuds out; grain in, but cattle, sheep and passengers are a lot less predictable.
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I would too.
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I can see what you mean about the 3 lights being a bit โheavyโ. But overall the three light configuration does tend to look balanced. Why canโt the two outerlights be white and the central one red though? Tail-lights seem to be singletons and it might give better balance? Just a thought.
I discarded the idea of getting one of these to convert as I couldnโt see how to convert it from its toy dimensions. I forked out on a Swift Sixteen railbus, whilst very good, is in a totally different price bracket.
Your excellent results have made me realise that I was wrong in giving up before even buying a donor model. Well done.
I discarded the idea of getting one of these to convert as I couldnโt see how to convert it from its toy dimensions. I forked out on a Swift Sixteen railbus, whilst very good, is in a totally different price bracket.
Your excellent results have made me realise that I was wrong in giving up before even buying a donor model. Well done.
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I think two head and one tail might be the way to go. When fitted with LED's and lenses they might not look so prominent.
It is a bit of a moot point about how much of the original is going to be left when the model is finished and there is always a balancing act between effort in and results out.
Thank you for your kinds words. I have always considered scale in SM32 as being rather elastic. You can get away with much by not placing particular items together. Just by raising the height of this 1/2'' seems to have made all the difference, the longer doors should help as well. I was having a think about the painting scheme and I think picking out the 'whiskers' and the lower swage line (possibly filling in between this and the edge of the body in a contrasting colour) should also help make it appear wider than it actually is.I discarded the idea of getting one of these to convert as I couldnโt see how to convert it from its toy dimensions. I forked out on a Swift Sixteen railbus, whilst very good, is in a totally different price bracket.
Your excellent results have made me realise that I was wrong in giving up before even buying a donor model. Well done.
It is a bit of a moot point about how much of the original is going to be left when the model is finished and there is always a balancing act between effort in and results out.
If at first you don't succeed, use a bigger hammer!
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