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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:40 pm
by Dasher
I never expected to see Tom Waits' ode to Curtain Twitchers on a Garden Railway Forum!
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:28 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
Dasher wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:40 pm
I never expected to see Tom Waits' ode to Curtain Twitchers on a Garden Railway Forum!
The minds in management work in mysterious ways. Wait till Nick Cave's "Red Right Hand" gets a blast in the workshop. Loud enough to do the dusting upstairs in the barracks upstairs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrxePKps87k
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:53 am
by bambuko
Hydrostatic Dazza wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:32 pm
"...Trying out the Loctite holding process and so far so good..."
Can you please explain? what are you holding with Loctite?
Not quite sure I follow...
btw - your filing skills whilst not surprising (after all you have plenty of practice in your daytime job) are very impressive
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:18 am
by FWLR
Another brilliant thread from you Dazza. I just love to see a master at work with so much detail. Thank you....
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:13 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
bambuko wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:53 am
Hydrostatic Dazza wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:32 pm
"...Trying out the Loctite holding process and so far so good..."
Can you please explain? what are you holding with Loctite?
Not quite sure I follow...
btw - your filing skills whilst not surprising (after all you have plenty of practice in your daytime job) are very impressive
The blank for the smoke box door is parted off the lump of LG2 bronze that was left over from the cylinders and steam chests. Both have been faced, then Loctite back together using a 2.5mm pin to line both together. Then the curved front face with a changing radius and edges will be machined using the Turnado system when it arrives here at head quarters next week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs8XZ8X1I-g
Then take to the mill for the slots for the stainless steel hing straps to sit into, heat up top break the Loctite bond and then braze the straps and then file the profile them etc.
Well that is the plan management intends to follow for making the smoke box door.
Filing for me is a chore, 40 years of nearly daily filing leaves me jaded with it, however thank you for the compliment. Much appreciated. I am off this weekend to the Rattler to guard tomorrow and then two days of firing and driving.
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:15 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
FWLR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:18 am
Another brilliant thread from you Dazza. I just love to see a master at work with so much detail. Thank you....
Thankyou , however I am not sure I am a master, I am terribly slow and I am just following what others have done many times before. I just copy techniques.
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:46 am
by bambuko
Hydrostatic Dazza wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:13 pm
The blank for the smoke box door is parted off the lump of LG2 bronze that was left over from the cylinders and steam chests. Both have been faced, then Loctite back together using a 2.5mm pin to line both together...
understand now
thank you
Hydrostatic Dazza wrote:
...Then the curved front face with a changing radius and edges will be machined using the Turnado system when it arrives here at head quarters next week.
interesting, thank you for the link to youtube channel!
Hydrostatic Dazza wrote:
Then take to the mill for the slots for the stainless steel hing straps to sit into, heat up top break the Loctite bond and then braze the straps and then file the profile them etc...
Look forward to seeing the results
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:55 pm
by Tom the blacksmith
Hi Dazzer,
Just in case no one else is a fan of where's Wally, I spotted Merv, lmao!
Have been away for a while and now catching up on your beautiful build thread and workmanship, keep it coming.
Best,
Tom
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:43 am
by bambuko
Yes, stainless is a pig to machine
I like using these carbide PCB drills
as well, although when they break they usually leave bits of drill in the hole
PITA to get out...
Nice work
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:29 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
bambuko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:43 am
Yes, stainless is a pig to machine
I like using these carbide PCB drills
as well, although when they break they usually leave bits of drill in the hole
PITA to get out...
Nice work
I use stainless a lot in my work but not in small sizes, so far using my hand wheel feed on the mill/drill and the DRO on the quill Z I am yet to break one. But crikey I go at a 0.10 -0.15 mm per second with the feed. I broke one with the back of my hand when brushed it by accident when in the collet. Only run the PCB drills in good collets say I. Never a drill chuck. I never use a drill chuck with any drills in the mill/drill.
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:33 am
by FWLR
I do love seeing your progress Dazza. That door is looking great.
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:09 am
by bambuko
Hydrostatic Dazza wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:29 pm
...so far using my hand wheel feed on the mill/drill and the DRO on the quill Z I am yet to break one. But crikey I go at a 0.10 -0.15 mm per second with the feed....Never a drill chuck. I never use a drill chuck with any drills in the mill/drill.
I couldn't possibly use direct feed on my Bridgeport for such small drills.
I use micro drill adapter:
http://www.penntoolco.com/llambrichusa- ... -adapters/
Unfortunately my budget doesn't extend to $600 for such a thing, so I have Chinese knock-off
You get what you pay.... hence my experience
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:14 am
by pandsrowe
Not intended as a criticism, but presumably the smoke box will be painted so why not brass rivets? Certainly a lot easier to obtain and to rivet into place.
On reflection, having been following this thread for some time I am beginning to feel that you are perhaps a little masochistic and want to do things the hard way, whichever you are still doing a fantastic job on this loco.
Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:57 am
by bambuko
Your "masochistic" is somebody else's "attention to detail"
No, I wouldn't use stainless either, but it is Dazza's railway