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There's a village near Skipton called Barnoldswick, pronounced Bar-lick, and the station beyond Huddersfield is called Slaithwaite, pronounced Slaa-witt! Must be a Yorkshire thing. Ey up cock!

Not only Yorkshire. There's a village near here in Cheshire called Cholmondeley pronounced Chumley and another called Wybunbury pronounced Winbry.

Rik

Then there is Wymondham pronounced Windum in Norfolk... Towcester pronounced Toaster in Northants, not to mention Igtham pronounced Item in Kent!
Thats without all the totally unpronounceable Welsh ones.

The Welsh ones would occupy a whole thread on their own.

Sorry, aye owpend a kan ov wirms thayr...

And, to get back on topic, I reckon your upholstery looks just right Peter!

Near us we have the village of Lympne - pronounced Limm.

philipy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:14 pm Thats without all the totally unpronounceable Welsh ones.

Actually, once I learned the Welsh alphabet, as an English speaker used to all the weird homophones, one of the things that pleasantly surprised me is how Welsh is always pronounced exactly as it is written (the one letter that seems to be an exception being 'y' which has a triple function). Another common misconception is Welsh doesn't have many vowels - in fact it has more than English!

On the other hand, it has mutations - which I find an absolute nightmare!

We have a Welsh friend who is very proud of being able to speak Welsh as well as English, and is aggresively protective of the Welsh language. Having said that, she fell about laughing when I (deliberately) mispronounced Heddlu (Police) as " Head lice" , something which she'd never seen the similarity of before.

Somewhere in this thread I was talking about my latest build. Just to remind you, it is a Brougham carriage which will be mounted on a flat wagon (suitable kit on order from Jerry Irwin) and placed behind my horsebox.
Previously I showed it in basic construction but it has moved on, now having beading on the passenger panels, rear springs and axle fitted and wheels temporarily placed for photographic purposes...... I'm hoping tomorrow will be warm enough in the shed to allow me to spray the first primer coat.

That's coming on well Peter.
How did you do the beading around the curved bottom edges? I always find it difficult to get it to sit actually at the edge rather than slightly over or under.

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:45 pm Somewhere in this thread I was talking about my latest build.

Previously I showed it in basic construction but it has moved on, now having beading on the passenger panels, rear springs and axle fitted and wheels temporarily placed for photographic purposes......

That is starting to look very fine!

I'm hoping tomorrow will be warm enough in the shed to allow me to spray the first primer coat.

As you know spray painting is not my favourite job, it makes me nervous! Wanting to be sure I don't mess it up I've been running a space heater when I've needed to paint just to be absolutely sure it's warm and dry enough but I don't know if this is always necessary. If you don't mind me mining your experience, how warm is 'warm enough'? For example my shed right now is 15.4°C and the rh is 64% - would you spray in those conditions?

SimonWood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:20 am As you know spray painting is not my favourite job, it makes me nervous! Wanting to be sure I don't mess it up I've been running a space heater when I've needed to paint just to be absolutely sure it's warm and dry enough but I don't know if this is always necessary. If you don't mind me mining your experience, how warm is 'warm enough'? For example my shed right now is 15.4°C and the rh is 64% - would you spray in those conditions?

Simon, I understand your concerns, I like to ensure an ambient temperature of above 12 degrees C, as for RH, I understand that professional vehicle sprayers keep the moisture up to keep spray dust down, and I would think 64% RH is pretty good, as most houses are 55 - 65% RH.

philipy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:46 am That's coming on well Peter.
How did you do the beading around the curved bottom edges? I always find it difficult to get it to sit actually at the edge rather than slightly over or under.

The beading is Slater's .20 x .40 Microstrip which I carefully pull through my fingers at an angle so a curve is established before I apply it. I fix one end and allow it to set enough to hold before moving along its length, following the curve as I go.

SimonWood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:20 am
As you know spray painting is not my favourite job, it makes me nervous! Wanting to be sure I don't mess it up I've been running a space heater when I've needed to paint just to be absolutely sure it's warm and dry enough but I don't know if this is always necessary. If you don't mind me mining your experience, how warm is 'warm enough'? For example my shed right now is 15.4°C and the rh is 64% - would you spray in those conditions?

I have little patience so I take chances occasionally when painting. If possible I spray in a shed which is insulated, so never freezing. But, I have been known to spray outdoors, even in cold weather, quickly taking the model inside the house to warm up and dry. I always heat the spray can on a radiator before spraying and try to warm the model too..... Speed is important.
Several light coats are better than one thick coat and dry faster too. I often use a clear lacquer to finish, so slight imperfections on surfaces disappear.

First coat of paint this morning. Plastic primer in two light coats, done in my shed and brought into the house to dry after about 20 minutes. No hurry this time as the temperature was OK .......

Are those curlicues above the springs made of metal or plastic? They look just right however you've formed them.

Rik

Jimmyb wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:43 am Simon, I understand your concerns, I like to ensure an ambient temperature of above 12 degrees C, as for RH, I understand that professional vehicle sprayers keep the moisture up to keep spray dust down, and I would think 64% RH is pretty good, as most houses are 55 - 65% RH.

Thanks Jimmyb. There will be times the shed falls below 12°C but it sounds like in general I've been a little more overcautious than necessary and I can save a bit of time, electricity and worry with this information.

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:22 am I have little patience so I take chances occasionally when painting. If possible I spray in a shed which is insulated, so never freezing. But, I have been known to spray outdoors, even in cold weather, quickly taking the model inside the house to warm up and dry. I always heat the spray can on a radiator before spraying and try to warm the model too..... Speed is important.
Several light coats are better than one thick coat and dry faster too. I often use a clear lacquer to finish, so slight imperfections on surfaces disappear.

Thanks Peter, that's both helpful and reassuring!

ge_rik wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:27 pm Are those curlicues above the springs made of metal or plastic? They look just right however you've formed them.

Rik

Well spotted Rik, they are so small and insignificant but I think important detail to include. Thin brass bar was used, twisted round small pointy-nose pliers (an engineering term!).

I had planned to scratch-build a flat wagon to carry the Brougham but, on reflection, I decided to ask Jerry Irwin whether he had anything suitable in his range. He did, although too short and narrow for the carriage to sit on. Never fear, Jerry to the rescue again with a redesigned deck to my dimensions and it is just right.....
Alongside the horsebox it is a perfect match..... The kit arrived this morning and will be painted tomorrow, can't wait!

The carriage wagon is now being painted, although not finished yet. Meanwhile the interior upholstery has been installed, padded (effect) on the side walls and seat, and leather coloured seat for the coachman....
The glazing has also been fitted using canopy adhesive, which dries clear and leaves no marks.
Currently the roof section is being painted and will be permanently stuck when finished.

Very plush, Peter.

Rik