Time to build a railway...but where?

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:25 pm

Jerry doesn't have a website but his range can be viewed here.....

https://www.flickr.com/photos/107486657 ... 8655086333

Jerry is a gardenrails Forum member and can be contacted direct by PM ....'Jerry'
I have sent you his home Email address, which he supplies in all of his kits, (see your PM)
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by FWLR » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:01 am

Peter Butler wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:02 pm Changing the subject yet again, I received my latest kit today from Jerry Irwin, the Corris Brakevan. I love his kits as they are a pleasure to make following the Youtube videos and always result in first class models with superb running in ball bearing bushes. This kit has various options contained in one box: with or without duckets, early or late structural bracing and end panels etc. I haven't yet decided which to do but I have the ability to do a dry-run before I commit myself..... incredible value for money I think......
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Looks like your going to be busy with that one Peter, but I know it will turn out to be brilliant as usual from you.

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by ge_rik » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:44 am

Peter Butler wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:02 pm ... incredible value for money I think......
I couldn't see any prices mentioned on Flickr. Is there a price list and are any of his kits available in 45mm gauge?

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:12 am

I am not aware of a published price list but Jerry can be contacted directly as shown above. That is the way I get information from Jerry.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:04 pm

Peter Butler wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:25 pm Jerry doesn't have a website but his range can be viewed here.....

https://www.flickr.com/photos/107486657 ... 8655086333

Jerry is a gardenrails Forum member and can be contacted direct by PM ....'Jerry'
I have sent you his home Email address, which he supplies in all of his kits, (see your PM)
Thankyou. More rolling stock is a desire we have for the POR and the list of potential candidates is growing.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Jerry » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:02 am

Hi,
If you drop me an email to jerry.irwin@homecall.co.uk I will email you a price list.
I am a one man band and have only a limited amount of time but I am always willing to design / produce various wagons at affordable prices and to a high standard.

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Post by Peter Butler » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:20 am

Jerry wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:02 am Hi,
If you drop me an email to jerry.irwin@homecall.co.uk I will email you a price list.
I am a one man band and have only a limited amount of time but I am always willing to design / produce various wagons at affordable prices and to a high standard.
Thank you for adding further contact details Jerry, I was unsure of giving your email address but highly recommend potential customers to make full use of it.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:12 pm

The Corris Brakevan build has been a real treat to make. I decided to go with the ducket version and followed the Youtube video, which is essential. Not all of Jerry's kits have the same sequence of construction, so it pays to watch carefully.
All of the pieces fit perfectly, no sanding or cutting required. As usual I built the main body first and painted it and the overlays separately.....
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The chassis has two slightly different build instructions dependent on whether you choose Binnie or metal wheels, I always use metal ones.
The side door can be made to slide (I chose not to). I also fitted Cambrian bolt heads to add detail, although the heads are etched into the parts anyway.
I have no idea what colour this was when running, it probably varied according to period, so I just did my own thing, again!.....
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by FWLR » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:34 am

That really is a nice looking van Peter. I love the colour by the way. I also do my own thing when it comes to paint colour. I have noticed that the bolts are showing the threaded bolt and nut. I am no expert Peter has you know, but don't they fit them with the head outside and tighten the nut from inside. They do look brilliant I must say with the nut showing, you could weather the board if you were that way inclined, to show the spanner slipping, but then it would be one heck of a job to do on each one...... :lol: :lol:

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:41 am

Thanks Rod, you don't need an eye test anyway!
I have given thought to filing off the bolts sticking through the nuts, but left them the way they are moulded. If Cambrian Models produced flat bolt heads that would resolve the issue in the future.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Andrew » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:42 pm

I REALLY like that - quirky, but very attractive...

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Post by Peter Butler » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:59 pm

My next kits arrived this morning from 'Sixteen Mills' .....
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The first to go on the bench is the Spooner, 'Serpent' brake-van, c1875. I do like these quirky designs, as you might have noticed?......

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It should end up looking something like this.....
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The kit is very well cut in MDF and supplied with Binnie wheels and axle boxes. I have swapped the wheels with metal rimmed ones as all my stock runs on metal wheels......
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The main body is now assembled and can be primed for top coat. Before painting I have added bolt heads were the engraving shows their position.....
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Andrew » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:07 pm

That's quite a wagon! I wonder if it was ever built, or was just an idea on a drawing board?

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:05 pm

I did wonder myself, although I'm not keen enough to bother with research. An interesting thing about it is that the brake operating wheel is a ship's wheel, this ties in with Spooner's boat on the Ffestiniog, so where is the nautical link?
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:53 pm

In answer to Andrew's question about the authenticity of the 'Spooner's Brake-van', this information has been given by Dave at 'Sixteen Mills'.....

"Being influenced by the two Spooner designed wagons as shown in James Boyd's volume 2 on the FR (Sixteen Mills kits SM002 & SM003), I developed further wagons in the handsome Spooner style.
The 'Serpent' brake van SM005, incorporates:
1. A similar side profile to the mid 1950's LNWR Henson Brake van.
2. A low roof to clear the FR loading gauge.
3. An open area to stand up and clearly see from.
4. A pair of ship's portholes from the Portmadoc chandler to see both ways from the cabin on frequent wet days.
They are offset to one side so the brakeman can see both ways when sat on the bench inside.
5. A lowered end to get a clear view from the forward porthole.
6. I fitted a small ships wheel to operate the brake on my own prototype as it was likely to have been available from the chandler's.
7. I wanted to break away from the usual traditional style brake vans."

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:33 am

Good progress with the wagon builds. They are both in primer and ready for painting......
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The second vehicle is a sheep wagon, again inspired by Spooner's designs (I believe) and very similar in construction to the guard's van....
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Despite the open sides, so ample ventilation, there is also a vent on the roof for some reason?....
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by ge_rik » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:14 pm

A quirky selection of wagons, Peter. That sheep wagon reminds me of the wagons which were supposedly once used to transport circus animals around. I could just imagine a tiger in there peering out through the bars....

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:26 pm

I believe tigers are larger animals than sheep and as the headroom is no more than 3'6" it would be an uncomfortable ride for big cats.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by LNR » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:46 am

The discolouration caused by the Lazer is almost perfect ageing/weathering in one sense. Almost a shame to hide it with paint. They are both very attractive styles, representative of a time when style was as important as function. Nice job Peter.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Andrew » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:36 am

Peter Butler wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:33 am Despite the open sides, so ample ventilation, there is also a vent on the roof for some reason?....
It looks a bit like the clerestory in 19th C carriages, where the oil lamps went - perhaps it's for sheep/tigers who are afraid of the dark?

Very attractive wagons, they'll look great in a mixed goods...

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