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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by SeamusOD » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:09 pm

Its looking great Rik what 3d printer did you go for

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by ge_rik » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:36 pm

SeamusOD wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:09 pm Its looking great Rik what 3d printer did you go for
The cheapest on eBay. It says it's a Prusa i3, but it ain't. It's a CTC DIY i3. I've finished putting it together and wired it up. Struggling to get the computer to communicate with the printer at the moment. It knows it's there but doesn't want to talk to it. The printer does, however, have an SD card reader so I'll try that next, just to see if it works.

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by philipy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:36 pm

ge_rik wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:36 pm The printer does, however, have an SD card reader so I'll try that next, just to see if it works.
My Qidi doesn't have any communication skills of it's own, so I have always had to do things via an SD card. It seems a bit of a pain at times but in reality it only takes a few seconds longer to save a drawing and walk over to the printer and put it in.
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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by SeamusOD » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:48 pm

ge_rik wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:36 pm
SeamusOD wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:09 pm Its looking great Rik what 3d printer did you go for
The cheapest on eBay. It says it's a Prusa i3, but it ain't. It's a CTC DIY i3. I've finished putting it together and wired it up. Struggling to get the computer to communicate with the printer at the moment. It knows it's there but doesn't want to talk to it. The printer does, however, have an SD card reader so I'll try that next, just to see if it works.

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Forget about connecting it to PC much easier just to transfer the gcode files to the printer on a SD card, I do my drawing/slicing on my main PC in the house then just take the card out and plug it into the printer in the workshop.
Snag with using the PC to do the communications is its normally a pain to get working, plus depending on firmware you sometimes have to keep it connected when printing, None of my printers have ever been connected to a PC apart from my old Davinci and it used to just send file to built in card as it had no external SD card port.

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Post by ge_rik » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:52 pm

SeamusOD wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:48 pm Forget about connecting it to PC much easier just to transfer the gcode files to the printer on a SD card, I do my drawing/slicing on my main PC in the house then just take the card out and plug it into the printer in the workshop.
Snag with using the PC to do the communications is its normally a pain to get working, plus depending on firmware you sometimes have to keep it connected when printing, None of my printers have ever been connected to a PC apart from my old Davinci and it used to just send file to built in card as it had no external SD card port.
I'm coming round to that way of thinking. It also means I can put the printer anywhere in the workshop rather than worrying whether I can hook it up to the computer. It's dead easy to print from the card, which is one aspect of the design I do admire.

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by ge_rik » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:56 pm

PS - Mk 1 of the seats look reasonably ok. A bit more tweaking required but hopefully by the time my new supply of filament turns up, I'll be ready to go into mass production.
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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by Nojahoda » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:13 am

The texture of that looks really like it's actually upholstered. Very nice.

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by ge_rik » Sat May 02, 2020 11:20 am

It's been a while since I posted an update - but a lot has been happening. As you will have seen, I've been running trains in the garden during the fine weather - and also, I've been tinkering with the 3D printer. It is a bit like a needy child, but I'm beginning to get to grips with it.

So, a lot of time has been spent in making the roof for the passenger trailer car.
Two laminations of basswood which had been rasped, filed and sanded - then filled and sanded a few more times. It's reached the stage where I can apply a couple of coats of primer, which reveal more blemishes which will need filling and sanding.
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The rear end has also required a lot of work as all the edges are curved. Again, more basswood and filler and loads of filing, filling and sanding.
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The seats are slowly being printed. I've been drawing, downloading and printing other things in between. The seats take about 25 minutes and the backs about 35 minutes to print - but the cost (not including electricity) is minimal - around 15p per seat.
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Looking forward to applying some paint!

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by Peter Butler » Sat May 02, 2020 12:16 pm

Looking great Rik, the curves may be hard work but well worth the effort. It's a very nice model and will look lovely when running.
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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by ge_rik » Sat May 02, 2020 1:36 pm

Thanks Peter
I must admit, that I have wondered if I could have drawn a 3D model of the roof to print off - but maybe that's a bridge (or a roof) too far at this stage in my learning process. I will be glad to clear the air in the workshop of dust from the sanding, though!

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by SeamusOD » Sat May 02, 2020 1:44 pm

compound curves are always a pain, we would use a lot of blue foam in the RC scale aircraft world as easy to carve and sand but not as "Ding" prof unless glassed afterwards

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by ge_rik » Sat May 02, 2020 1:47 pm

SeamusOD wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 1:44 pm compound curves are always a pain, we would use a lot of blue foam in the RC scale aircraft world as easy to carve and sand but not as "Ding" prof unless glassed afterwards
Hopefully, the railcar won't be getting too far off the ground and so prangs (as I think the good old handle-bar moustache chaps used to call them) are going to be fewer and farther between than in the RC aircraft world.

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by philipy » Sat May 02, 2020 1:54 pm

Rik,
Looking at the picture of the white seats, you seem to have a pincushion/pillowing effect on some of them. Not sure if its just the internal structure showing through or if it's an actual physical effect? However, the way to get rid of it is to increase the number of top layers in the slicer. I used to use 3 or 4 top layers and had a big problem, particularly with low infill %, but a professional 3d printing guy told me that he tends to go up to as much as 10 layers - the more layers the less flexible and less prone to deforming.
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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by SeamusOD » Sat May 02, 2020 5:48 pm

easy route always is the best :D

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Post by ge_rik » Sat May 02, 2020 7:31 pm

philipy wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 1:54 pm Rik,
Looking at the picture of the white seats, you seem to have a pincushion/pillowing effect on some of them. Not sure if its just the internal structure showing through or if it's an actual physical effect? However, the way to get rid of it is to increase the number of top layers in the slicer. I used to use 3 or 4 top layers and had a big problem, particularly with low infill %, but a professional 3d printing guy told me that he tends to go up to as much as 10 layers - the more layers the less flexible and less prone to deforming.
Thanks for that tip, Philip. Another setting to investigate.

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by Andrew » Sat May 02, 2020 8:24 pm

This is looking great!

Sorry to be a cliched trainspotter, but what livery are you going to go for?

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Post by ge_rik » Sun May 03, 2020 7:57 am

Andrew wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 8:24 pm Sorry to be a cliched trainspotter, but what livery are you going to go for?
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I thought I'd go for the line's passenger stock livery, maroon. I was tempted to keep her in CDR livery of crimson and cream, though.....

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by Andrew » Sun May 03, 2020 9:01 am

ge_rik wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 7:57 am
Andrew wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 8:24 pm Sorry to be a cliched trainspotter, but what livery are you going to go for?
Cheers,
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I thought I'd go for the line's passenger stock livery, maroon. I was tempted to keep her in CDR livery of crimson and cream, though.....

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I was wondering whether you'd resist that temptation!

Looking forward to seeing it...

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Re: CDR Railcar No. 10

Post by Jimmyb » Sun May 03, 2020 9:27 am

Andrew wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:01 am Looking forward to seeing it...
I can only agree :D

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Post by ge_rik » Mon May 04, 2020 8:04 pm

All the seats are now printed, the passenger trailer is more or less finished and so today received a couple of coats of primer.
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Still a fair bit of filling and sanding to go and also a few more fittings needing to be made and attached - but she's beginning to look the part.

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