Time to build a railway...but where?

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:14 am

ge_rik wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:43 am Very nice. Thanks for the info about the spectacles. I assume you put the drill on a slow speed? Do you drill from both sides and meet in the middle?

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To drill the holes I use a medium speed but not too much pressure.... nice and gently. Place the plasticard on a piece of softwood deep enough to take the cutter and drill from one side only. I cut one sheet at a time, not stacked.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by SimonWood » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:28 am

Peter Butler wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:48 pm Tomorrow is hand-over day so I hope Brian is pleased and takes it to our 16mm Association area group meeting on Saturday.
I'm sure he will be - that's a stunning little loco. Looking forward to seeing it for real tomorrow!

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Post by jim@NAL » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:38 pm

That's a fantastic look loco Peter.

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:39 pm

The two WW1 water tanks, which I purchased with the two pairs of bogies, have now been put on four wheeled chassis. They were too short to have been anything to do with the bogies so gave me the opportunity to build more wagons......
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I managed to find brake stands in my 'come in useful one day' bits box. They are from the Bachmann carriage conversions I did some time back and have now been put to good use.
Since taking the pictures I have now added brake gear and textured plate at the balcony ends and they will be going into the paint-shop tomorrow.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by FWLR » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:38 am

I just don't know were you find the time to do all this Peter. You certainly are a fast worker....It's takes me all my time to get up in the mornings..... :lol: :lol:

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:00 pm

I have been doing other things over the last few days but found time to finish off my water tank wagons. They are not scale models of prototypes, very few of my builds are, however I think they give a fair impression of their intended purpose and period......
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Also, having been inspired by Philipy's 3D printed brake-gear, I have fitted a vague representation to these wagons and I'm now in the process of retro-fitting similar to all my stock. It was remiss of me not to do it earlier and I have been shamed into it!
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Post by FWLR » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:17 pm

Brilliant job there Peter as usual. :thumbright: :thumbright:

Were did you get the brake gear from, or are they in your'e "Little Box Of Bits".....

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Post by FWLR » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:29 pm

HAPPY NEW YEAR Peter, :occasion9: :occasion9: :occasion9:

All The Best to you.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:35 pm

Hi Rod, thanks for the comment. The brake gear is all scratch-built from bits of plasticard, it is surprisingly strong now it is welded together with solvent so I hope it lasts in use. The brake shoes aren't detailed but when seen from a distance, and with low light levels in shadow, I am quite happy with them.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by FWLR » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:38 pm

Will have to have a go at doing some Peter.

What thickness did you use, I have 1mm,1'1/2mm and 2mm Plasticard. Also got 1mm and 2mm in Black.

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Post by tom_tom_go » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:44 pm

Given your attention to detail Peter what's with the shiny wheels?

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Post by Peter Butler » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:18 pm

You're right Tom.... they are shiny aren't they?
I certainly overlooked that as an item of any importance but, looking at the pictures above, they disappear underneath the wagon at track level and I know they will rust naturally if I just leave them alone.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by FWLR » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:34 am

I usually paint mine with Red Brown Humbrol inside and out.

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Post by ge_rik » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:25 am

Nice looking wagons, Peter. You have a knack of always choosing the right colour schemes for your builds.

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by GTB » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:40 am

Peter Butler wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:18 pm I certainly overlooked that as an item of any importance but, looking at the pictures above, they disappear underneath the wagon at track level and I know they will rust naturally if I just leave them alone.
What do others do about this?
The VR painters never bothered masking off the wheels when they repainted rollingstock and the overspray meant the wheels were whatever colour was used to paint the running gear.

Since I follow VR practice the wheels on TVT rolling stock are painted the same colour as the underframe or bogies, usually in situ. I don't bother masking treads either and clean any overspray off with a pipe cleaner and paint thinner before the paint is fully cured.

My only exception to painting wheels underframe colour are timber tram log bogies. The prototype ironwork wasn't painted and just left to rust, so the wheels and other ironwork are painted rust colour.

Running steam locos, there is usually enough oil left on the rails to keep the wheel treads of steel wheels from rusting.

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by GTB » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:53 am

Peter Butler wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:35 pm The brake gear is all scratch-built from bits of plasticard, it is surprisingly strong now it is welded together with solvent so I hope it lasts in use.
That came up well. At the rate you work it won't take long to upgrade the rest of the fleet.

Unless you make a habit of having derailments, polystyrene brake gear should be OK. It should be far enough underneath the body to escape handling damage by all but the most ham-fisted helpers and it will be easy enough to repair if it has an accident.

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by philipy » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:18 pm

Peter Butler wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:18 pm
What do others do about this?
I wipe metal wheels with a cotton bud dipped in Birchwood Casey Gun Blue, which I've had for very many years. Don't bother with any thing else, just wipe and leave. Steel goes a sort of dirty black colour and brass goes a rusty brown colour.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by tom_tom_go » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:34 pm

Just like to add you can't chemically blacken Accucraft wheels as they are plated (nickel I believe).

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by IrishPeter » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:12 pm

Mild steel will rust here, as Virginia is rather humid for 6 months of the year, so I don't usually do anything with the wheels - just wait. Stainless, etc., gets a little help from the rusty brown paint pot. I find anything too shiny is a distraction, especially as mine are supposed to be working railways, not tourist lines, though domes will get a little elbow grease from time to time.


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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:36 pm

ge_rik wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:25 am Nice looking wagons, Peter. You have a knack of always choosing the right colour schemes for your builds.

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