Deltang Rx60 and Tx22 issues with power dropping

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Stewart Gethin

Deltang Rx60 and Tx22 issues with power dropping

Post by Stewart Gethin » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:35 pm

Hi Guys,

Basically I have installed a deltang RX60 in my HGLW battery diesel. This loco used to run fine until I installed the rx60 in it.

My issue is the power seems to drop after about a yard of running on the track? Is it that the motor is asking for too much from the deltang unit?


Stewart

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Post by Busted Bricks » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:38 pm

What cells are you using? You need to ensure the RX has a high enough voltage to operate correctly.

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Post by SimonWood » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:27 am

I'm considering doing this with my HGLW loco at some point. Having read one of ge_rik's helpful postings on the Deltangs (http://riksrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/ ... ntrol.html) it seems that the 2.4V that NiMh AA batteries will provide won't be sufficient, so I was going to try to fit an 18650 cell in there. I think there's room (just about).
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Post by MikeD » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:56 pm

I've used 3 x AAA rechargable or 3 X AA rechargable (depending on the space available) in three locos I've converted this way with Deltang units and they work fine....

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Post by Stewart Gethin » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:06 pm

Hi Guys,

I've used 4 x AA Batteries in a trailing wagon to power the loco. (Before having the deltang fitted I used 2 x AA and it worked fine)

Stewart

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Post by Busted Bricks » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:25 pm

Have you got a way to measure voltage? It would be worth checking how much the voltage drops under load. What transmitter are you using? Make sure you are actually going to full throttle.

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Post by Stewart Gethin » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:02 pm

Busted Bricks:117447 wrote:Have you got a way to measure voltage? It would be worth checking how much the voltage  drops under load. What transmitter are you using? Make sure you are actually going to full throttle.
I am using a TX22 transmitter. When I open the throttle at all this happens.

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Post by robyholmes » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:05 pm

I had this problem when you increased the throttle. The Deltangs have a LiPo protection setting on them which isn't needed for NiMh.

Programming info is here:
http://www.deltang.co.uk/rx60c-v611-p.htm (Just check I've got right version for your chip)

Then under Menu 7 look for LVC (Low Voltage Cut). It needs to be disabled.

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Post by ge_rik » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:01 pm

Hi Stewart
You say you're using 4 x AA. Are they rechargeables? It sounds to me as if the batteries are not delivering enough power. One of the cells might be duff (I've had a similar problem myself) or there might be a fault on connections between the cells.

Does the LED flash five times when the loco fails? That's the signal for a brown-out (ie not enough power from the batteries)

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Post by Stewart Gethin » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:16 pm

robyholmes:117455 wrote:I had this problem when you increased the throttle. The Deltangs have a LiPo protection setting on them which isn't needed for NiMh.

Programming info is here:
http://www.deltang.co.uk/rx60c-v611-p.htm (Just check I've got right version for your chip)

Then under Menu 7 look for LVC (Low Voltage Cut). It needs to be disabled.

I'll have to have a look at it in depth and get back to you. Thank you for your response.

Stewart

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Post by Stewart Gethin » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:17 pm

ge_rik:117463 wrote:Hi Stewart
You say you're using 4 x AA. Are they rechargeables? It sounds to me as if the batteries are not delivering enough power. One of the cells might be duff (I've had a similar problem myself) or there might be a fault on connections between the cells.

Does the LED flash five times when the loco fails? That's the signal for a brown-out (ie not enough power from the batteries)

Rik
If it's as simple as that Rik I'd love it! I'll have a look as thinking about it the batteries could've been sitting around for a while. But no they aren't rechargeable.

I'll let you know my verdict once I've sorted it.

Thanks everyone.

Stewart

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