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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:31 am
by ge_rik
For some reason this thread has passed me by for a few months. Really like the two most recent wagons - exquisitely modelled and beautifully finished.

I've been using 1mm and 2mm half round nail art gems/pearls as rivets for a while. I'm sure I picked up the idea from another forumite. At 99p per 1000 (Inc postage) they work out to be very cost effective. You can also get hexagonal gems in various sizes to represent bolt heads.

Rik

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:09 am
by Andrew
ge_rik wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:31 am I've been using 1mm and 2mm half round nail art gems/pearls as rivets for a while. I'm sure I picked up the idea from another forumite.
According to this very thread, I started using 'em back in June 2015, so unless anyone's use of nail gems predates that, I'm claiming it! One of the benefits of having teenage daughters!
ge_rik wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:31 amAt 99p per 1000 (Inc postage) they work out to be very cost effective. You can also get hexagonal gems in various sizes to represent bolt heads.
How do they do them for that price?! Perhaps I don't want to know...

I had a look for hexagonal ones a while ago (on your advice Rik!) but couldn't find any think enough for my needs - perhaps it's time to trawl that corner of the internet again!

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:40 pm
by ge_rik
Aha, so it's all your fault..... :?
Actually, thanks. Cambrian are good - especially for 'nut + washer + bolt' heads but the nail art pearls save having to cut the rivet heads off the sprue.

1000 x 1mm half round for 99p or £1.30 for 2mm inc postage (from Swindon) - plus 10% if you buy more than one pack
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1000-Half-Pe ... CBBN_6CcOg

I can't find the hexagonal pearls I bought but found these which might do the job (£1.25 per 1000 inc postage from Andover)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1mm-Chunky-H ... XQvTlRiWbl

Rik

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:21 am
by JMORG
River Lin wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:53 pm Hi. JMORG.
While researching colours i found these-
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See main image and the one bottom right. Both FR.
Also -
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This is a still from a film from the early preservation days at Bleanau F. Looking at the film clip it appears to be pale blue.
I ended up painting mine maroon :?
David.
I'll probably do one in British Army olive green, I've got a few BW pictures so I'll have to see if I can interpret the colours of the rods compared to the rest of the locomotive. I can imagine that the two tractors were pretty much as they were when they left the army surplus depot.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:57 am
by GTB
JMORG wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:21 am I'll probably do one in British Army olive green, I've got a few BW pictures so I'll have to see if I can interpret the colours of the rods compared to the rest of the locomotive. I can imagine that the two tractors were pretty much as they were when they left the army surplus depot.
The WD didn't use Baldwin petrol mechanicals. They were only built for the US Army and the French.

The French ones seem to have been grey, not sure what the US ones were. I doubt either would have had red rods as built. The usual colour scheme in service would have been mud.

I've read that the FR Baldwin PM was an ex French loco that was reconditioned by Kent Construction (Planet loco. builders), so it might have been repainted before sale.

Graeme

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:27 pm
by Andrew
No word from work (a university library) yet on whether (or to what extent) we'll close due to the current crisis, but I'm assuming events will overtake the decision-makers at some point and I'll find myself with a fair bit of time on my hands. There's some DIY to be done, but while I was in Screwfix this afternoon stocking up on paint supplies in readiness, I also bought myself this - THE WORLD'S BIGGEST bottle of wood glue:

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There's a litre of it! Should be able to amuse myself with that for a while. Constructing rolling stock, I mean, not sniffing it...

Stay safe everyone,

Andrew,

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:57 am
by LNR
Do you intend to decant into a smaller more usable container Andrew. Just wondering, depending on the glues makeup exposure to air and evaporation, hope you get to use all of it.
Grant.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:45 am
by Peter Butler
When it's empty it would make a good table lamp!

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:50 pm
by Andrew
LNR wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:57 am Do you intend to decant into a smaller more usable container Andrew. Just wondering, depending on the glues makeup exposure to air and evaporation, hope you get to use all of it.
Grant.
Good point, thanks Grant. I didn't actually want one that big, but it was all that was available, it was cheap, and I managed to sneak it out of the household budget... I'll decant it into some glass jars I think...

Cheers,
Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:06 am
by FWLR
Those small squeeze bottles you get now that self close would be ideal Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:01 am
by Andrew
Morning all!

On the whole, I'm not a terribly fast worker. Work, family and other commitments mean that even a simple wagon build can take months to complete, or even longer.

Not this one! This curious beast took me less than a week start to finish:

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That's not its best side, but even its best side is pretty ugly! It's built entirely from foam board on an old Faller chassis, and has a huge lump of wood inside for weight. As far as I recall, it's also the only thing I've ever sprayed yellow.

So what is it? It certainly doesn't look like anything that ran on the old Welsh Highland, or anywhere else come to that, it lacks detail, is much bigger than most of my other wagons, and with a coupling at only one end it won't be much use in a train...

Well... It's my answer to Network Rail's Structure Gauging Train. I like to have vegetation growing near to the tracks, but find it hard to judge how close is too close, resulting in derailments, damage, and carriages streaked with oil that locos have deposited on overhanging leaves. This wagon is designed to solve that - it's slightly bigger than my biggest loco, so before each run I'll simply attach it to a battery engine and push it slowly up the line, clipping anything that it comes into contact with. I just had a trial run, and it worked really well - those wasp stripes are actually quite useful in spotting leaves etc!

Here it is attached to my new battery loco:

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And again, this time in action - ivy can be quite a hazard for trains, as can Ivy, next door's lovely but very inquisitive cat:

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If this weather holds and find myself at home next week, I imagine I may run the odd train - got to keep my spirits up, eh?

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:57 am
by LNR
Good idea Andrew, hope the wasp stripes keep everything clear ahead cause that driver needs a periscope :lol:
Grant.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:08 pm
by Andrew
LNR wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:57 am Good idea Andrew, hope the wasp stripes keep everything clear ahead cause that driver needs a periscope :lol:
Grant.
I did actually considering adding one, or perhaps a window in the end of the van, but the urge to finish this one quickly and crack on with other things was too strong...

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:44 am
by FWLR
It's brilliant Andrew.

That is a superb idea and it's cheap too. Nothing like saving money, especially now, with what's going on in the world.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:15 am
by philipy
Very good Andrew.
All it needs is a set of whirling razor blades on the sides and it can do the pruning as it goes!

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:13 am
by ge_rik
When I saw the first photo I expected to see a snowplough on the other end. Thinking about it, maybe a plough would be useful in pushing aside some of the debris..... :)

Rik

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:27 am
by philipy
ge_rik wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:13 am When I saw the first photo I expected to see a snowplough on the other end. Thinking about it, maybe a plough would be useful in pushing aside some of the debris..... :)

Rik
I nearly added a thought about putting a rotating brush on the end, when I made my comment about blades! :D

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:52 am
by Andrew
philipy wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:15 am All it needs is a set of whirling razor blades on the sides and it can do the pruning as it goes!
I saw one in SMT about 30 years ago which had a sideways-mounted strimmer - terrifying! The Risk Assessment would make interesting reading...

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:54 am
by Andrew
ge_rik wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:13 am When I saw the first photo I expected to see a snowplough on the other end. Thinking about it, maybe a plough would be useful in pushing aside some of the debris..... :)

Rik
I wondered that... Or a length of draught excluder to sweep the track? Or both?

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:11 pm
by Andrew
Hello!

As a relatively rare treat, I've bought myself a kit to build, Lineside Hut's version of the Ffestiniog timber bolsters, which arrived today.

First impressions are that there's an impressive amount of parts to put together, and that they seem well cut, but that for some reason the wagons are expected to ride around on tiny weeny wheels. I didn't like the look of that at all, but fortunately I'd already purchased some Binnie 3 hole disk wheels - that's what the real things have, and the Lineside Hut image of their version features curly spoked wheels, so I knew I wanted to replace them anyway.

There's not enough clearance between wheel and floor to allow a straight swap, so I've had to cut out two additional "sub chassis" to provide the space, which creates a chunkier looking frame. I think that looks OK, but compare for yourselves - my altered version's on the left, with the original on the right, both just held together by gravity for now

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Those aren't the disk wheels on the left hand wagon, I haven't dug those out of the cupboard yet, but they're the same size. For reference, the original bolsters are here, with a slate wagon between them as a match wagon: https://www.festipedia.org.uk/w/images/ ... er_Set.jpg

Time to break open the glue...

Andrew.