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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by GTB » Mon May 13, 2019 10:22 am

philipy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 3:52 pm For some reason I thought lego was made from one of those slightly flexible plastics that are pretty inert.
Some brands are. Some of the cheaper bricks are HDPE, which won't take paint, or glue.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by JMORG » Sat May 25, 2019 8:26 am

Andrew (and anyone else)
Two new additions to the WHR carriage fleet on the LVLR have been finished.
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Carriages 23 (summer carriage) and 39 (toast rack) are modelled after their current appearances. 39 is currently awaiting couplings.
These two carriages can also be used with some of our other F&WHR locomotives without looking odd, primarily the NGG16 (23) and the Angus Double Fairlie (39).
Currently also finishing the NWNGR brake van to go with the wagons and the two NWNGR carriages.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by philipy » Sat May 25, 2019 9:07 am

The quality of the stock speaks for itself, but I love that middle picture, the oblique shot looking along the line into the distance. Beautiful!
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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by JMORG » Sat May 25, 2019 9:14 am

Having stock just sit in the morning sun is atmospheric in itself! They're currently sat there, might run an engine (Model Tryfan probably but Yeo could do with some more running in...) whilst I carry on with some wagonry; currently building a WHR bolster set and a NWNGR brake van!
Both of these are currently at the derailing/painting stage and should be ready this summer to join the three coal wagons (two NWNGR and one WHR liveried). Some slate and flat waggons also exist; did the NWNGR run slab waggons?
The Blue Wrightscale Baldwin is currently waiting assembly; hopefully the WHHR will hurry with 794!

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by FWLR » Sat May 25, 2019 9:32 am

Nice.... :thumbright: :thumbright:

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Soar Valley Light » Sat May 25, 2019 8:36 pm

philipy wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 9:07 am The quality of the stock speaks for itself, but I love that middle picture, the oblique shot looking along the line into the distance. Beautiful!
:thumbup:

Philip has put it in a nutshell for me.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Sun May 26, 2019 8:35 am

JMORG wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 9:14 am Having stock just sit in the morning sun is atmospheric in itself!
Absolutely - I know just what you mean!

That's a fantastic looking rake of carriages, thanks for the picture. I've got a half-finished model of a Hudson "toast rack" that I started about 10 years ago, I really must finish it sometime!

I'll be interested to see how your wagons turn out too, particularly the timber bolsters - did you come up with your own dimensions from photos, I've never seen drawings?

My current wagon projects, the van and open, have now received a coat of WHR red paint. I need to make some new stencils for the lettering now...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by JMORG » Sun May 26, 2019 12:12 pm

My current wagon projects, the van and open, have now received a coat of WHR red paint. I need to make some new stencils for the lettering now
A distinct lack of pictures is evident...
Has anyone manager to find any interior details for the NWNGR brake vans?

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Post by ge_rik » Sun May 26, 2019 12:55 pm

Great looking rolling stock - really complemented by the buildings

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by cncmodeller » Tue May 28, 2019 7:10 pm

So what's the green used on the Colonel Stephens livery? Nobody seems to know what the actual colour is used on the Ffestiniog railway today.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by JMORG » Tue May 28, 2019 10:13 pm

cncmodeller wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 7:10 pm So what's the green used on the Colonel Stephens livery? Nobody seems to know what the actual colour is used on the Ffestiniog railway today.

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I'm using Humbrol 76 and 100 for the Col. Stephens livery. This seems to be roughly correct, the carriages seem to weather pretty quick in the Welsh Sunshine...
Ran the rake (minus the toast rack) with Yeo, unfortunately the steel(!) roof on carriage 23 decided that anything in front of it will go for a wander on curves... This means that the carriage will need to be at the front of a train; the WHR bike wagon is currently having (a lot) more lead added underneath! I'll probably give this a quick going over to bring it closer to the B wagons in terms of detail; I now have correct SAR bogies and handwheels and I'll redo the strapping to the correct angle extrusion.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by cncmodeller » Tue May 28, 2019 10:18 pm

OK thanks, they look great.
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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Wed May 29, 2019 11:48 am

cncmodeller wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 7:10 pm So what's the green used on the Colonel Stephens livery? Nobody seems to know what the actual colour is used on the Ffestiniog railway today.

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I go for Revell Matt 48 for mine, which is slightly "bluer" than the shade often used - I reckon it gives a slightly faded look, which I like. I usually use a matt varnish but if I get round to making some more anytime soon I might try a satin finish to give the carriages concerned a slightly more "ex-works" look...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:53 am

Morning all,

My wife's away for a few days, which has had the usual result - the kitchen table's covered in rolling stock projects:

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The WHR van and small open have received stenciled letters, and this evening I hope to start on strapping etc. Four more Big Big skips are underway, the troublesome coal trucks may receive attention (see Help and Advice!), and a slate wagon has come in to have its running gear re-stuck... Plenty to be getting on with...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by JMORG » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:19 pm

Looking great Andrew.
I promise to do a historic NWNGR/WHR photoshoot tomorrow for everyone on this forum!
What red are you using for the waggons? I'm using the light grey for some WHR wagons but I want to do some in the red as a difference.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:14 pm

JMORG wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:19 pm Looking great Andrew.
I promise to do a historic NWNGR/WHR photoshoot tomorrow for everyone on this forum!
What red are you using for the waggons? I'm using the light grey for some WHR wagons but I want to do some in the red as a difference.
Looking forward to the pics!

I'm not at home at the moment, will check paint colours when i am. I'm going to change the red I use for WHR wagons though - I'm using the same stuff but it seems the formula's changed. It used to be a rich wine coloured red, but now it's much brighter, as seen in the photos. That's fine for one or two wagons, I don't suppose there was much consistency on the real thing, but I'd like the overall impression to be of wagon in the deeper shade... That said, I thought I'd do the next wagon (likely to be another open) in grey for variety. Then a brake van, which seem to have been red with grey ends, most unusual...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:42 pm

My railway's been in such a mess for the last few years that all passenger services have been suspended. With long overdue track work finally bringing it back up to scratch, my thoughts are turning to passenger carriages again.

My WHR Summer Car left the works a couple of years, but was almost immediately withdrawn from traffic because it couldn't survive a trip up the line without being dragged over sideways by the "bowstring effect" on the sharper curves. This weekend I've set about trying to cure that, starting with moving the bogies further towards the end of the vehicle to reduce the swing on the couplings. Then I added some weight underneath in the form of this 6" long, err, thing:

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I don't know what it was attached to, where I found it, or who "Woods" were, but the carriage was made in Bristol (my version that is, not the Mancunian original), so it seemed appropriate.

Here it is on test an hour or two ago:

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I added some wagons to the back of the carriage and trundled it round a couple of curves, and it's looking good so far, no bowstring, although a full rake of carriages at a slightly higher speed might be a stiffer test. It still needs its couplings lowering, they're a little on the high side, but that's probably going to mess up the ends of the carriage, so if I can I'll enjoy running it for a while before undertaking that work.

Testing revealed a further problem with derailment, most unusual for my stock with Big Big Train running gear, such as this one. The cause turned out to be a non-standard wheelset which had been switched for one of the originals before I acquired the donor (BR Mk2) carriage. That's been cured for now by swapping it with one from the Gladstone Car, but I'll need to get hold of another. Fortunately, they crop up fairly frequently on eBay, even if they are horribly over-priced.

That's all for now. Still too hot in the garden, so I might crack on with some strapping for my WHR wagons...

Cheers,

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by JMORG » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:30 pm

My 23 has the opposite problem; tips over everything in front of it (annoyingly including the Toastrack).

As promised, pictures of some of the freight wagons:
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Yes Beddgelert has arrived! The overhang is incredible, no bogie carriages can be run immediately behind this locomotive!
Not seen on this forum before are the two NWNGR coal wagons; modified IP (front) followed by the first Jurassic. Another is currently unmade, will likely be finished as a NWNGR wagon.
The Hearse is a standard Timpton with IP buffers.
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One of two bolsters, as seen at Dinas. Modified Lineside Hut.
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Jurassic NWNGR brake van. This one became the unumbered WHR van and differed to number 2 in lots of details.
Lots of slate and flat wagons (The Lineside Hut) to be started.
Also for modern WHR:
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K1 will compliment the 138 and the rest of the LVLR Garratt's nicely.

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by FWLR » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:38 am

Thats a great photo Andrew, it does blend in with the scenery. I have a coach that does the exact same thing, it does not like curves one bit..

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by JMORG » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:01 pm

Weatherinng attempts...
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IP wagon. Modified by removing a plank from the top...
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Jurassic. This one has been recently overhauled hence the cleaner body.

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