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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Jimmyb » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:05 pm

Andrew, looking good, a nice addition to any railway.

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Post by JMORG » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:20 pm

Looking good Andrew! Need to find a load for mine now...
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Slate slab waggon. Not sure if the NWNGR had any but most likely!
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Finished ex WD D wagon, ready to deliver coal to Beddgelert...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by FWLR » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:20 am

They are looking SUPERB Andrew. Can't wait to see the train in action...

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Soar Valley Light » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:34 pm

Hi Andrew,

That WD D is absolutely beautiful. Do you know if that the same as the wagon that used to lie in the station area back in the late 60's/early 70's on a short length of track?

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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Post by Andrew » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:09 pm

I can't claim any credit for the D Class, that's JMORG's - lovely though, isn't it?!

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Post by JMORG » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:00 am

Thanks both,

Andrew, what station was this?

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Post by Soar Valley Light » Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:14 am

Hi JMORG,

I'm pretty sure it was Beddgellert. It would have been a couple of years either side of 1970. I was only a kid but I vividly remember being on holiday in the area. We went up Snowdon on the train that year (Dad managed to blag us a seat in the front with the Guard!). One of my clearest memories is driving down the Aberglaslyn Pass and seeing the disused trackbed, particularly that girder bridge over the Glaslyn. We called in at one of the station sites and there was at least one bogie open wagon (possibly two now I think about it) sitting on a very short length of track. the front wheelset of one was off the road. THere was some rail stacked alongside, I remember because I tried to persuade my parents to use a length across a sleeper to lever the wheelset back on to the track - I watched far too many Westerns as a kid! The other thing I clearly remember was that the station throat ended in a deep cutting which led down to a fairly short but very wet tunnel. I've never travelled on the rebuilt Welsh Highland (in fact I don't think I've revisited that part of North Wales since then!) so I really don't know the geography of the line but this tunnel ought to pinpoint where it is.

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Post by JMORG » Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:43 am

Soar Valley Light wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:14 am Hi JMORG,

I'm pretty sure it was Beddgellert. It would have been a couple of years either side of 1970. I was only a kid but I vividly remember being on holiday in the area. We went up Snowdon on the train that year (Dad managed to blag us a seat in the front with the Guard!). One of my clearest memories is driving down the Aberglaslyn Pass and seeing the disused trackbed, particularly that girder bridge over the Glaslyn. We called in at one of the station sites and there was at least one bogie open wagon (possibly two now I think about it) sitting on a very short length of track. the front wheelset of one was off the road. THere was some rail stacked alongside, I remember because I tried to persuade my parents to use a length across a sleeper to lever the wheelset back on to the track - I watched far too many Westerns as a kid! The other thing I clearly remember was that the station throat ended in a deep cutting which led down to a fairly short but very wet tunnel. I've never travelled on the rebuilt Welsh Highland (in fact I don't think I've revisited that part of North Wales since then!) so I really don't know the geography of the line but this tunnel ought to pinpoint where it is.

Andrew
That's quite interesting! From what I can work out, the 64 company (now WHHR) did place some ex-Croesor tramway rail at the station as well as some "wagons" (not sure what type, looks like some ex-RAF wagons similar to the D type) to let the locals know of their intentions. Not sure what happened to the wagons but I know the rail got stolen! It would've been useless anyway as it was light tramway T-rail unsuitable for locomotives.
Looking at their current wagon list it looks like they only have the steel sided "Locoal" types. It is possible that the ones you saw rotted away if they were of the wooden "Bocoal" type.
It is well worth a visit! North Wales is currently working towards getting UNESCO status for the slate industry. The F&WHR is also currently developing plans for a new station at Blaenau and possibly an extension to Llechwedd quarry tours.

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Post by Soar Valley Light » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:49 pm

I remember the rail was fairly small section. The wagons were definitely wooden bodied.

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Post by Old Man Aaron » Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:20 pm

Catching up on this thread and (no offense to anyone else!) I must say, it's rare to see this sort of quality, and quantity in a fleet of rollingstock.
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Post by Andrew » Sat May 02, 2020 8:21 pm

Well that's very kind of you, thank you...

I can only take some of the credit, because JMORG also showcases his Welsh Highland stock here, and I think we've had some of River Lin's and Peter's in the past too, so both quality and quantity are a team effort! Glad you like it though - I must admit, I like to scroll back through to remind myself of what I've been up to.

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Post by ge_rik » Sun May 03, 2020 8:06 am

Just catching up with this thread. I think this is a great example of one of the forum's strengths - the sharing of ideas and supportive viewpoints. Also good to see the quality of modelling inherent in our membership.

Love the additional detailing you've added, Andrew.

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Post by JMORG » Sun May 03, 2020 10:57 am

I think it's a good way to showcase different methods of construction and finish for the same piece of stock. For example, Andrew and myself both have FR van 10/2 (not sure what it's called now) and carriage 23. Andrews is finished as per the 20's whereas mine are "as preserved" in order to run them with the K1 and NGG16.
The freight stock is another good comparison, as there are no reliable information on wagon construction details or livery (even pictures are scarce). The freight stock is thus quite varied in details, I've tried to keep mine as more "in-keeping" and paint them in NWNGR livery to get away with it.

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Post by Andrew » Sun May 03, 2020 7:28 pm

JMORG, we must try to run our combined WHR fleet together at some point - you must be only a few junctions up the M5 from me?

Still, combining them virtually is better for social distancing!

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Post by Andrew » Wed May 06, 2020 2:30 pm

Afternoon all!

The bolsters are now weathered, numbered and ready to roll - and one of the pleasures of working from home is the chance to do that over lunch!

Here are the empty bolsters heading up to the timber yard at Penlan:

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And heading back down, loaded with sawn timber:

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The next trip was for some logs, longer than before, so requiring a slate wagon to act as a match truck:

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I'm pleased to report that the test was a success - for such light vehicles they ran pretty well.

I've got a few maintenance tasks to complete now, then it's on to something completely different...

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Post by tom_tom_go » Wed May 06, 2020 2:46 pm

Achieved during lunch eh Andrew :mrgreen:

They look great.

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Post by Andrew » Wed May 06, 2020 4:14 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 2:46 pm Achieved during lunch eh Andrew :mrgreen:
Well, lunchtime's a movable feast these days!

Can't help but notice that the left (Penlan) side of the garden, usually in shade, catches the sun very nicely first thing in the morning, when I'd normally either be on my way to work or still in bed. I may need to postpone logging in to work and raise steam one morning...

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Post by tom_tom_go » Wed May 06, 2020 4:45 pm

I am glad you changed the wheels on the bolster wagons, they look much more substantial.

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Post by Andrew » Wed May 06, 2020 6:04 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 4:45 pm I am glad you changed the wheels on the bolster wagons, they look much more substantial.
I'm glad you approve, I'm pleased I did it. They're more like the real thing now, but still don't stand close comparison!

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Post by Peter Butler » Wed May 06, 2020 7:53 pm

What a wonderful job you have made of those bolsters Andrew, a transformation from the basic kits you started with, top marks for that!
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