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bazzer42 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:10 am Didn't realise how close we were until Tueday evening, c'est la vie! If you have a spare chassis I have a Newqida red body here going spare. I used the chassis to build an rhb style log carrier in my lgb days.

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Rik

ge_rik wrote: ↑Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:20 am
Accucraft get away with it on their models - I suppose it's a personal decision as to whether you can live with it. I found a spare set of Accucraft wheels and tried them. It does work, though they will need some plastic or brass tube spacers to keep the wheels centred.

Thanks Rik. I don't think I'd be happy with that look, myself, but each to his own.

The gap would annoy me as well which is why I am always put off buying Accucraft stuff for 32mm gauge.

I have one W&L wagon though that I managed to move in the axle boxes without ruining the look of the model.

philipy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:44 am Simon, I know Rik suggested it, but doesn't just putting 32mm wheels in a 45mm chassis look odd with the solebars/axle boxes an extra 6mm too far away from the wheels?

I think Rik's right about it being a personal question of if you can live with it! When I assembled a Swift Sixteen 7 plank wagon I was dismayed by the gap between the axle boxes.
I thought it would bother me a great deal (it's not even as if the axle extends to the fake axle box). But even though it's far more obvious than the gap on my Newqida coaches, in fact I rarely notice or remember, and it appears frequently in my consists because I now think it's a great looking wagon and a nice little runner.

I won't know until unless I try it, but I suspect that even if wheels on the van will look odd from certain angles very low to the track, I personally won't ever actually notice it while running!

Done a bit of weathering, and added cosmetic brake gear. . . .
Rik

If I didn't know, never in a million years would I guess the origins of that van. Well done.

Good stuff - the weathering is just right

Seeing the transformation of this vehicle from its original form is a lesson in imaginative thinking. The modification and finish are both equally well done and it looks just right.

Thanks folks, you're very kind. Quite pleased with the way this turned out. These bashes are always a voyage of discovery.

Rik

Van #2 now well under way, thanks to the kind donation of another van body from Bazzer42 of this parish. .
Same technique as previously - end panels removed and ends glued back on to what remains .
As the bottom slide for the doors is part of the chassis, I had to make my own from plasticard ..... .
...... and then use a bisected HLW chassis. .
Needs a bit of tidying-up - a few gaps to be filled here and there and of course a paint-job. Oh yes, plus couplings and brake gear. Probably about three hours' work so far - but who's counting?

Rik

Blooming Norah! That was quick and I have two hartland chassis here.....but I may hang on to those

bazzer42 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:11 pm ... I have two hartland chassis here.....but I may hang on to those

Don't blame you, they're handy to have around.
Didn't want to leave it hanging around - the US box car I bashed recently had been sitting on the shelf for over 5 years. This way, I know it's done. And besides, I need another van to carry all those fruit boxes ....

Thanks again. Much appreciated.

Rik

The outdoor line is planned to be 32mm gauge/1:22.5 scale to represent 750mm/Bosnian/2'6" gauge, and also to allow me to tap into the LGB/LGB Knock-off odds and ends that I see going cheap from time-to-time. I am also a sucker for things like transporter wagons, and the larger continental style vans. I tend to find British stock a bit Bijou! In most cases I am looking at new wheelsets, a respray, and couplers, which is not too much of a pain in the neck to do. I have four Newquidas on the block at the moment and two of them are intended to be green for my 15mm/Ga.1 line, and the other two are going to the G3/Ga.0 side of things.

Well, that's the theory anyway. I could still be distracted by Feldbahn/WDLR type equipment and a more agricultural feel to things.


Cheers,

Peter in Va

IrishPeter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:09 am I tend to find British stock a bit Bijou!

I like bijou - I think that's what attracts me to narrow gauge in the UK - though I prefer 3' to 2' gauge stock (some of which is very bijou). I really must get around to modelling something Irish - mostly my stock is inspired by the Southwold and the Welshpool (which I know isn't 3'). Mind you, the Rye & Camber was 3' and their stuff was pretty bijou - especially the locos.

Rik

Lovely vans Rik - I especially like the streaks of rust on the door...

I'm currently van-less (MOTLITT van 11 having been withdrawn for heavy overhaul) so I'm tempted to try to do something similar with a couple of Faller vans I've had knocking around for years. I don't think such a quick fix is possible there though so I'll probably go for a genuine WHR one first. Those were positively rustic, I fear a model of one won't be the pride of the line...

Cheers,

Andrew.

ge_rik wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:03 pm

IrishPeter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:09 am I tend to find British stock a bit Bijou!

I like bijou - I think that's what attracts me to narrow gauge in the UK - though I prefer 3' to 2' gauge stock (some of which is very bijou). I really must get around to modelling something Irish - mostly my stock is inspired by the Southwold and the Welshpool (which I know isn't 3'). Mind you, the Rye & Camber was 3' and their stuff was pretty bijou - especially the locos.

Rik

I tend to like the idea of unloading a 10 tonner into a 10 tonner, so Leek and Manifold is more my world than the 3 and 4 ton wagons used on the Ffestiniog. I guess the major influence with me is Calthrop - another Lincolnshire man - who liked to work everything to the max.. On the other hand, Irish BG stock was pretty small, so some of the Irish 3' gauge stock (which I also model) was decided 3 to 2 when transhipped to IBG.

Peter in Va

Can't decide if the doors on these wagons are supposed to be thin steel or plywood. I've been triying to track down any UK ng prototype vans with flush doors to see if there were any precedents.

Rik

From the pics, they look to me as though they are supposed to be steel. The timber horizontal slats on the body are quite prominent and the doors are just flat with bolt/rivet heads indicating internal framing/bracing, which suggest a sheet face. I suppose they could be plywood, but that seems less likely IMO.

Second van now more or less finished. A little bit of tidying and of course weathering needed. .
The HLW chassis worked out quite well - provided you don't look too closely. .
Here's the new with the old. .
Quite pleased with the outcome. .
Many thanks to Bazzer42 for helping the PLR gain another new item of rolling stock.

Rik

I'm a big fan of weathering, and you've made a lovely job of "distressing" the first van, but I really like the contrast between the two - would you consider leaving the second in ex-works condition? I keep meaning to do it myself then get carried away with assorted grot colours...

Cheers,

Andrew