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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Phil.P » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:15 pm

Thanks for the information Peter.

I had not come across the product before..

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Post by philipy » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:57 pm

Phil.P wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:32 pm Can I ask why Canopy Adhesive for overlays?

Is it because the items are both painted?
I believe it is because canopy adhesive dries clear and is slightly flexible, so if any squeezes out of the joint it is much less visible
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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Jimmyb » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:07 am

Very little has happened lately with the railbus, the body and chassis built as per the instructions, and now I am looking to make it my own.
Update on the motor front, I bought one the the "Chinese" 6 - 12 volt motors, and when applying power to the original motor and new motor 2.4 volts and 4.8 volt (2 X and 4X NiMH batteries) the speed did not seem to be much different, not very scientific, I know but I was sceptical of the new motor rating. So I bought a MFA Coma 12 - 24 volt motor, runs very slow at 2.4 volts, and reasonable at 4.8 volts, so I think it may just provide the power I need :)

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Old Man Aaron » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:00 pm

Rather like that railmotor kit, looking forward to seeing what you do with yours.
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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Jimmyb » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:58 pm

Progress so far:

Basic item assembled
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A quick test to determine the motor to use, and battery voltage
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Making the roof removable
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Low melt soldered bonnet assembly with extra weight
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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Jimmyb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:30 pm

Further progress:

Balsa blocks added for side frame supports:
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Side frames add:
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Inside panelled:
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Roof adapted to take a speaker:
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Hope fully the photos tell the story, but more details can be found on my blog:
http://www.tumble-down-falls.co.uk/ip-e ... g-railcar/

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Peter Butler » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Good progress Jimmy. I have had to see the pictures on your bog as they do not appear on your post, only as 'image'.
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Post by philipy » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:44 pm

Peter Butler wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:26 pm Good progress Jimmy. I have had to see the pictures on your bog as they do not appear on your post, only as 'image'.
Thats strange Peter, the pictures all look fine to me.
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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Peter Butler » Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:17 pm

philipy wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:44 pm
Peter Butler wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:26 pm Good progress Jimmy. I have had to see the pictures on your bog as they do not appear on your post, only as 'image'.
Thats strange Peter, the pictures all look fine to me.
Nope, still the same as they appeared yesterday.
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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Phil.P » Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:50 pm

I don't see the images either...

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Jimmyb » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:11 am

Thanks for the feedback, seems odd that some can see the images and some can't, as the page is public viewing on my blog I would have though they would be available. I will check my settings.

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by SimonWood » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:46 am

I am enjoying following along with this build - the interior panelling looks superb.
Jimmyb wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:11 am Thanks for the feedback, seems odd that some can see the images and some can't, as the page is public viewing on my blog I would have though they would be available. I will check my settings.
Without wishing to get too technical, I think the reason for this will be that the images are on an unsecured site (this means without a valid 'SSL' certificate) whereas the forum is a secure site. Some people cannot see the images because their browser will not allow mixing secure and insecure elements, others have more lax security settings and won't notice a problem. The solution (where possible) is to host the images on a secure site.

Secure URLs start with https rather than http.

Philip - perhaps you could add a line to your excellent tutorial about this?

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Jimmyb » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:34 pm

SimonWood wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:46 am I am enjoying following along with this build - the interior panelling looks superb.
Jimmyb wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:11 am Thanks for the feedback, seems odd that some can see the images and some can't, as the page is public viewing on my blog I would have though they would be available. I will check my settings.
Without wishing to get too technical, I think the reason for this will be that the images are on an unsecured site (this means without a valid 'SSL' certificate) whereas the forum is a secure site. Some people cannot see the images because their browser will not allow mixing secure and insecure elements, others have more lax security settings and won't notice a problem. The solution (where possible) is to host the images on a secure site.

Secure URLs start with https rather than http.

Philip - perhaps you could add a line to your excellent tutorial about this?
Simon, you maybe correct, when I view the page in my normal browser I can see the photos, I assume due to me logged on to my website, however when I view the page in an"other" browser not associated with my website, I cannot see the images just the "image" marker. However when using a different forum that I have also posted the photos on linking to my website the photos are visible, and that site is also a secure HTTPS site.
It would seem that the settings on this site are the issue. As you are aware you cannot just change to a secure HTTPS site you need a SSL certificate, which are not free, on top of my domain name and web hosting fee, this is a step to far.
As you know this forum has a photo limitation, and now down to two photos per post (and I am content with that (not that I have choice :) )) and am content to link from another site, but if the forum does not like my photos, then it would seem linking photos are a pointless exercise for me :(

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by philipy » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:48 pm

Jimmy,
The other alternative is to use a free hosting site with the necessary certification, such as Postimages .org as outlined in our "How To.." section.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 62&t=13243
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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Jimmyb » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:06 pm

philipy wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:48 pm Jimmy,
The other alternative is to use a free hosting site with the necessary certification, such as Postimages .org as outlined in our "How To.." section.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 62&t=13243
Philp, many thanks, however after editing and posting once, that is enough for me. I spend 90% of my working day working on a computer, and try to keep my leisure time screen viewing to a minimum.

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Post by ge_rik » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:14 pm

It seems to be browser related. Chrome won't load the images whereas Firefox does. I've tried to see if there's a way of changing the settings in Chrome to allow mixed content but it doesn't seem to be there in the latest version of Android Chrome. No problem with Windows Firefox or with Android Firefox.

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:17 pm

I have switched to Firefox to test this theory, and it works!
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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Jimmyb » Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:27 am

ge_rik wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:14 pm It seems to be browser related. Chrome won't load the images whereas Firefox does. I've tried to see if there's a way of changing the settings in Chrome to allow mixed content but it doesn't seem to be there in the latest version of Android Chrome. No problem with Windows Firefox or with Android Firefox.

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Many thanks for that, my default browser is Firefox, which I allowed me to see the images, but as said I thought that may have been because logged in to my site, seems not, however I tried both Chrome and Edge, and neither would let me view them in the page, but clicking the image opened the image on a separate page.

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by Phil.P » Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:30 am

I am using Chrome on an Android smartie-phone, and I see the images..

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Re: IP Engineering Rail Bus

Post by SimonWood » Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:54 am

Jimmyb wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:34 pm It would seem that the settings on this site are the issue. As you are aware you cannot just change to a secure HTTPS site you need a SSL certificate, which are not free, on top of my domain name and web hosting fee, this is a step to far.
Mixing secure and insecure content will always present a problem for some viewers, depending on their setup - it's not an issue with the forum. You are quite right about needing SSL certificates - and although they are in fact available free (take a look at "Let's Encrypt") installing one inevitably involves spending time and effort. Fortunately, if people simply click through to your (excellent) blog, the images are already viewable there for everyone as things stand.
ge_rik wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:14 pm It seems to be browser related. Chrome won't load the images whereas Firefox does. I've tried to see if there's a way of changing the settings in Chrome to allow mixed content but it doesn't seem to be there in the latest version of Android Chrome. No problem with Windows Firefox or with Android Firefox.
It is browser related in so far as the browser will have default security settings and possibly allow you to change them - but even where you can change them doing so degrades the security of your browser. While I might be comfortable changing them myself, I would be cautious about recommending anyone else takes that risk - that's why I suggested updating the tutorial in the "How to..." section to indicate that hosting images on an insecure site is best avoided.

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